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Chacron on 16 February 2009

Alan Wake will be their big first party title this holiday, surely.



 

 

 

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Onyxmeth on 16 February 2009
blue-lady said:

I have alluded to this in thread's before, but it strikes me that for the first time Microsoft will not have a large, decisive shooter out for the Christmas period based on the information available to us.

So far the console's life has looked like this:

-2005: Perfect Dark Zero

-2006: Gears of War

-2007: Halo 3

-2008: Gears of War 2

But in 2009, the only shooter who's existence we are aware of is the Halo 3 expansion ODST.  As great as I'm sure this new single-player campaign will be, it is extremely unlikely to develop the sort of system-selling and promoting hype the other shooters have.

So what, if anything, do you believe Microsoft has planned?

Do you perhaps believe they feel the shooter market is saturated and that they can make do with ODST and multiplatform shooters?

Or do you feel that they have a large shooter planned?  Perhaps a true Perfect Dark sequel?

So you don't think Halo 3 ODST is going to outsell the 1.47 million Perfect Dark Zero sold? You seem to be ok with calling PDZ a "large, decisive shooter" so you must feel ODST will perform worse, correct?

I can't get on that boat buddy. Halo 3 ODST will be 3 million bare minimum, which is double the sales of PDZ. I will guarantee you it performs better critically also, which leaves you with no further leg to stand on argumentively if you agree with my two assumptions.

Also isn't Halo 3 ODST a standalone expansion?

 



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Chacron on 16 February 2009
Onyxmeth said:
blue-lady said:

I have alluded to this in thread's before, but it strikes me that for the first time Microsoft will not have a large, decisive shooter out for the Christmas period based on the information available to us.

So far the console's life has looked like this:

-2005: Perfect Dark Zero

-2006: Gears of War

-2007: Halo 3

-2008: Gears of War 2

But in 2009, the only shooter who's existence we are aware of is the Halo 3 expansion ODST.  As great as I'm sure this new single-player campaign will be, it is extremely unlikely to develop the sort of system-selling and promoting hype the other shooters have.

So what, if anything, do you believe Microsoft has planned?

Do you perhaps believe they feel the shooter market is saturated and that they can make do with ODST and multiplatform shooters?

Or do you feel that they have a large shooter planned?  Perhaps a true Perfect Dark sequel?

So you don't think Halo 3 ODST is going to outsell the 1.47 million Perfect Dark Zero sold? You seem to be ok with calling PDZ a "large, decisive shooter" so you must feel ODST will perform worse, correct?

I can't get on that boat buddy. Halo 3 ODST will be 3 million bare minimum, which is double the sales of PDZ. I will guarantee you it performs better critically also, which leaves you with no further leg to stand on argumentively if you agree with my two assumptions.

Also isn't Halo 3 ODST a standalone expansion?

 

 

 They need something big for the fall to keep owners excited and a 3-5 hour expansion, nomatter how awesome - just isn't going to cut it.



 

 

 

Onyxmeth on 16 February 2009
Chacron said:
Onyxmeth said:
blue-lady said:

I have alluded to this in thread's before, but it strikes me that for the first time Microsoft will not have a large, decisive shooter out for the Christmas period based on the information available to us.

So far the console's life has looked like this:

-2005: Perfect Dark Zero

-2006: Gears of War

-2007: Halo 3

-2008: Gears of War 2

But in 2009, the only shooter who's existence we are aware of is the Halo 3 expansion ODST.  As great as I'm sure this new single-player campaign will be, it is extremely unlikely to develop the sort of system-selling and promoting hype the other shooters have.

So what, if anything, do you believe Microsoft has planned?

Do you perhaps believe they feel the shooter market is saturated and that they can make do with ODST and multiplatform shooters?

Or do you feel that they have a large shooter planned?  Perhaps a true Perfect Dark sequel?

So you don't think Halo 3 ODST is going to outsell the 1.47 million Perfect Dark Zero sold? You seem to be ok with calling PDZ a "large, decisive shooter" so you must feel ODST will perform worse, correct?

I can't get on that boat buddy. Halo 3 ODST will be 3 million bare minimum, which is double the sales of PDZ. I will guarantee you it performs better critically also, which leaves you with no further leg to stand on argumentively if you agree with my two assumptions.

Also isn't Halo 3 ODST a standalone expansion?

 

 

 They need something big for the fall to keep owners excited and a 3-5 hour expansion, nomatter how awesome - just isn't going to cut it.

I don't see any reasons why not. It's not like it'll be the only game in the Fall lineup. DO you really think that the 360 will crash and burn in sales if a full retail shooter isn't presented?

 



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Chacron on 16 February 2009
Chacron said:
Onyxmeth said:
blue-lady said:

I have alluded to this in thread's before, but it strikes me that for the first time Microsoft will not have a large, decisive shooter out for the Christmas period based on the information available to us.

So far the console's life has looked like this:

-2005: Perfect Dark Zero

-2006: Gears of War

-2007: Halo 3

-2008: Gears of War 2

But in 2009, the only shooter who's existence we are aware of is the Halo 3 expansion ODST.  As great as I'm sure this new single-player campaign will be, it is extremely unlikely to develop the sort of system-selling and promoting hype the other shooters have.

So what, if anything, do you believe Microsoft has planned?

Do you perhaps believe they feel the shooter market is saturated and that they can make do with ODST and multiplatform shooters?

Or do you feel that they have a large shooter planned?  Perhaps a true Perfect Dark sequel?

So you don't think Halo 3 ODST is going to outsell the 1.47 million Perfect Dark Zero sold? You seem to be ok with calling PDZ a "large, decisive shooter" so you must feel ODST will perform worse, correct?

I can't get on that boat buddy. Halo 3 ODST will be 3 million bare minimum, which is double the sales of PDZ. I will guarantee you it performs better critically also, which leaves you with no further leg to stand on argumentively if you agree with my two assumptions.

Also isn't Halo 3 ODST a standalone expansion?

 

 

 They need something big for the fall to keep owners excited and a 3-5 hour expansion, nomatter how awesome - just isn't going to cut it.

 

 Not necessarily a shooter but without a substantial AAA title then yes alot of 360 owners may become disillusioned with the system.



 

 

 

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Onyxmeth on 16 February 2009
Chacron said:

 

 Not necessarily a shooter but without a substantial AAA title then yes alot of 360 owners may become disillusioned with the system.

Ok, so basically you're just waiting for MS to reveal their cards. Why not wait more patiently? They will come. We have ODST, Mass Effect 2, and Alan Wake seemingly wrapped up for this Fall, rumblings of Forza Motorsport 3 being a reality for the Fall, and whatever Rare is working on, since they have been very quick little busy bees and should be able to get something out by the Fall. Maybe Halo Chronicles is possible for this year also. Nobody knows. Maybe Splinter Cell Conviction can make it out this Fall.

There's a lot of speculation at this point, but I don't see MS rolling over and dying anytime soon, so I'm pretty sure they have a lineup in store for us that is comparable to the last two years.

 



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Squilliam on 16 February 2009

@ Onyxmeth:

Microsoft is going to roll over and die if they don't release a shooter I deem to be in the same league as Killzone 2, past shooter efforts from the PS3 being poor not withstanding.



Tease.

Onyxmeth on 16 February 2009
Squilliam said:
@ Onyxmeth:

Microsoft is going to roll over and die if they don't release a shooter I deem to be in the same league as Killzone 2, past shooter efforts from the PS3 being poor not withstanding.

Do you serve crackers with that helping of sarcasm?

 



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Flame on 16 February 2009

Hopefully MS releases Alan Wake, ive been waiting to see what this game is like just as much as Heavy Rain. The idea behind SC: Conviction is nice, hopefully it hits in '09.

Also, I think Halo: ODST might be for the fans the same with Halo wars. I personally won't be picking it up, I'd rather get CoD: MW2. Halo: ODST just seems like an expansion to Halo 3 which... idc about.



blue-lady on 16 February 2009
Onyxmeth said:
blue-lady said:

I have alluded to this in thread's before, but it strikes me that for the first time Microsoft will not have a large, decisive shooter out for the Christmas period based on the information available to us.

So far the console's life has looked like this:

-2005: Perfect Dark Zero

-2006: Gears of War

-2007: Halo 3

-2008: Gears of War 2

But in 2009, the only shooter who's existence we are aware of is the Halo 3 expansion ODST.  As great as I'm sure this new single-player campaign will be, it is extremely unlikely to develop the sort of system-selling and promoting hype the other shooters have.

So what, if anything, do you believe Microsoft has planned?

Do you perhaps believe they feel the shooter market is saturated and that they can make do with ODST and multiplatform shooters?

Or do you feel that they have a large shooter planned?  Perhaps a true Perfect Dark sequel?

So you don't think Halo 3 ODST is going to outsell the 1.47 million Perfect Dark Zero sold? You seem to be ok with calling PDZ a "large, decisive shooter" so you must feel ODST will perform worse, correct?

I can't get on that boat buddy. Halo 3 ODST will be 3 million bare minimum, which is double the sales of PDZ. I will guarantee you it performs better critically also, which leaves you with no further leg to stand on argumentively if you agree with my two assumptions.

Also isn't Halo 3 ODST a standalone expansion?

You're missing the point.  Of course Halo ODST will outsell PDZ, I also agree it is likely to do better critically.  But it is an expansion title at a budget price.  It simply on its own doesnt offer the console definition that we have seen the previous four holidays.

I am not for a moment suggesting that the Xbox 360 will flounder if another large exclusive shooter isn't announced.  Once you look past the Killzone 2 hype currently dominating the boards, the Xbox 360 easily matches the PS3 in terms of this year's line-up.

I'm merely wondering if Microsoft mightn't like another shooter in their repertoir this holiday season to match previous efforts.