im aware of the fact that in the US, Barack Obama has talked about making healthcare more accessible to the people, which i think is good, here in the UK of course we have the NHS, i think the NHS is great, Free healthcare for everyone is a good thing, afterall i believe everyone has the right to healthcare, what do you guys think of the NHS and Healthcare in general?
Free Healthcare is great as long as you don't want access to healthcare ...
Funny, I'm writing my master-thesis on acceptability of new systems (DRG systems) in health care.
In general, great institutions, quite noble in nature though will play with a lot of powergames amongst themselves, government, management and insurance.
Would be a much better institution if all parties agreed more easily.
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| HappySqurriel said: Free Healthcare is great as long as you don't want access to healthcare ...
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im confused, are you pro or anti free healthcare?
Healthcare is a right. Its an absolute mockery of everything the U.S. stands for that we are the richest country in the world and we won't even provide healthcare to our citizens. Out of the top 25 industrialized nations in the world, we are the only one without universal healthcare. We are the exception, not the norm.
Not to mention our healthcare system isn't even as great as we make it out to be. Sure, its great if you can afford it, but for an increasingly large amount of Americans, it is unaffordable. And without insurance many places won't even treat you unless it is an absolute emergency.
The U.S. has "sickcare" rather than healthcare. Its like waiting until your car breaks down before you take it to the shop rather than taking it to the shop before it breaks down. You end up wasting a ton of money fixing a problem after the fact rather than saving money and fixing it before the fact.
People are scared to go to the doctor, because if you get diagnosed with something it can mean you lose your health insurance. When you get sick, you lose your insurance. Its a kafkaesque nightmare, with all the incentives in reverse of what they should be. People are discouraged from seeking treatment when they should and only seek treatment at the worst possible times.
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I don't care western medicine is over rated if you want to get well or cure urself eastern medicine is the way to go
In my opinion western medicine actually makes u worse or will cause u more problems down the line
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| HappySqurriel said: Free Healthcare is great as long as you don't want access to healthcare ...
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Overpriced healthcare is great if you can actually pay for it.
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akuma587 said:
Overpriced healthcare is great if you can actually pay for it.
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If you weren't aware of it, we're essentially pointing out the same problems ...
There is a very large cost associated with delivering healthcare in the developed world in a large part due to safty regulations surrounding pharmacuticals and (often unnecessary) malpractice litigation. At the same time Healthcare is a very limited resource in a large part because of how few people take care of themself, and how many people take advantage of a system (if it is free).
Regardless of who is paying the bill (it will be you either way) these problems will still exist, and many people will have no access to healthcare ... The problem with government run healthcare is it becomes a political sacred cow and nothing can be tried to make the system more efficient.
In Canada we have free health care as well :)
However, USA would rather give money to bail out the fat cats of wall street than give free medicare. They obviously need to get their priorities straight.
| arsenal009 said: In Canada we have free health care as well :) |
We have healthcare you don't really have access to ... If you need a family doctor it will take years before you can find a decent GP who is willing to take on patients, if you have an emergency you have to hope that the wait time in the emergency room is short enough that you don't die before seeing a doctor, and if you have a serious illness that requires you to see a specialist you better pray you don't face complications in the months it takes to get your apointment.
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