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Halo 2 - not multiplayer only, but it's not popular for it's single player. 

Half-Life 2: Deathmatch
Day of Defeat: Source
Battlefield 2
Battlefield 2142
Counter-Strike 1.6- the most popular version of CS doesn't have any bots.

There may be only 15 bots you can have in Battlefield 2, but it is in no way representative of the actual game where you can have 64 players. No, not even close. So therefore, Battlefield 2 and Battlefield 2142 will be on my list.

 

class is starting so I'll have to finish this list later in like an hour.



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I'm not decrying having a multi only game. That's cool, but personally I'm a bit suprised that there aren't bots in it because it's Multiplayer only. Is there anything you can do in the game if your not on the internet? Training? driving around a map exploring?



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ssj12 said:
Zim said:
IllegalPaladin name a recent multiplayer only game that doesn't feature bots. If you do find one I would like to know the review scores. Battlefield bots may be stupid but there are 15 of them. Stupid bots are better than none. At least you get the option. So what lair just couldn't even do like 2 bots?

15 stupid bots is still infinetly better than no bots.

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Day of Defeat Source 


I'm just assuming you haven't played any of the games you listed...

Source has official bots, and their actually pretty good.

Pro Mod? WTF? Thats not a commercially released game. But since its a mod, I think 3rd party bots should be counted.

TFC had bots, and given CSS has bots as well, I'd assume TF2 has them. Maybe you could actually look it up? 

DOD, again a mod, and again, 3rd party bots are available.

DODS, not sure about offical valve bots, but I'd assume yes.

 

The issue is you can easily get bots for any PC game, however, with a console you rely on the developer to include them - something I would say is important for a multiplayer only game. Furthermore, the fact that less than half the PS3 userbase is online means that the lack of bots means there is no way for 50% of PS3 users to play Warhawk, except 1 v 1 with a friend.



Leo-j said: If a dvd for a pc game holds what? Crysis at 3000p or something, why in the world cant a blu-ray disc do the same?

ssj12 said: Player specific decoders are nothing more than specialized GPUs. Gran Turismo is the trust driving simulator of them all. 

"Why do they call it the xbox 360? Because when you see it, you'll turn 360 degrees and walk away" 

stof said:
I'm not decrying having a multi only game. That's cool, but personally I'm a bit suprised that there aren't bots in it because it's Multiplayer only. Is there anything you can do in the game if your not on the internet? Training? driving around a map exploring
 
You can play with other people on your PS3 through split-screen. You can also train and drive around the map.

 



sieanr said:
ssj12 said:
Zim said:
IllegalPaladin name a recent multiplayer only game that doesn't feature bots. If you do find one I would like to know the review scores. Battlefield bots may be stupid but there are 15 of them. Stupid bots are better than none. At least you get the option. So what lair just couldn't even do like 2 bots?

15 stupid bots is still infinetly better than no bots.

Counter Strike: Source

Counter Strike: Pro Mod

Team Fortress 2

Day of Defeat

Day of Defeat Source


I'm just assuming you haven't played any of the games you listed...

Source has official bots, and their actually pretty good.

Pro Mod? WTF? Thats not a commercially released game. But since its a mod, I think 3rd party bots should be counted.

TFC had bots, and given CSS has bots as well, I'd assume TF2 has them. Maybe you could actually look it up?

DOD, again a mod, and again, 3rd party bots are available.

DODS, not sure about offical valve bots, but I'd assume yes.

 

The issue is you can easily get bots for any PC game, however, with a console you rely on the developer to include them - something I would say is important for a multiplayer only game. Furthermore, the fact that less than half the PS3 userbase is online means that the lack of bots means there is no way for 50% of PS3 users to play Warhawk, except 1 v 1 with a friend.


 A lot of those bots are third party and should not be counted, just like not counting Pro mod.



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TFC had official bots

Source has official bots

If you want to get into scemantics, you DOD shoudln't be counted, CS shouldn't be counted, ect since they were all mods.

However, the issue is PC and Console is apple and oranges. Bots can be easily added to a PC title, but not to a console game.



Leo-j said: If a dvd for a pc game holds what? Crysis at 3000p or something, why in the world cant a blu-ray disc do the same?

ssj12 said: Player specific decoders are nothing more than specialized GPUs. Gran Turismo is the trust driving simulator of them all. 

"Why do they call it the xbox 360? Because when you see it, you'll turn 360 degrees and walk away" 

stof said:
I'm not decrying having a multi only game. That's cool, but personally I'm a bit suprised that there aren't bots in it because it's Multiplayer only. Is there anything you can do in the game if your not on the internet? Training? driving around a map exploring?

 must agree here...I hope they will have a good ranking system because this means that if you are late to the party you have no way to train before enter the online system. 



 

 

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Halo 2 - Yes the single player is popular and it has it. Doesn't count

Half-Life 2: Deathmatch - Is either $10 or included with other games.

Day of Defeat: Source - $20 and released nearly 2 years ago.

Battlefield 2 - doesn't count, 15bots.

Battlefield 2142 - doesn't count, 15bots.

Counter-Strike 1.6- If you want to count counterstrike pro mod then this can also include bots through a mod. Not to mention this is a game originally released nearly 7 years ago. Even 1.6 is more than 4 years old.

Counter strike source - Has bots.

Team fortress 2 - Seriously? You mean the game that comes with HL2, HL2 episode 1, episode 2 and portal?

So the only 2 recent games there with no bots could be bought for less than warhawk. Im sorry but I still don't see why the game has no bots, especially for the price.



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IllegalPaladin said:
sieanr said:
ssj12 said:
Zim said:
IllegalPaladin name a recent multiplayer only game that doesn't feature bots. If you do find one I would like to know the review scores. Battlefield bots may be stupid but there are 15 of them. Stupid bots are better than none. At least you get the option. So what lair just couldn't even do like 2 bots?

15 stupid bots is still infinetly better than no bots.

Counter Strike: Source

Counter Strike: Pro Mod

Team Fortress 2

Day of Defeat

Day of Defeat Source


I'm just assuming you haven't played any of the games you listed...

Source has official bots, and their actually pretty good.

Pro Mod? WTF? Thats not a commercially released game. But since its a mod, I think 3rd party bots should be counted.

TFC had bots, and given CSS has bots as well, I'd assume TF2 has them. Maybe you could actually look it up?

DOD, again a mod, and again, 3rd party bots are available.

DODS, not sure about offical valve bots, but I'd assume yes.

 

The issue is you can easily get bots for any PC game, however, with a console you rely on the developer to include them - something I would say is important for a multiplayer only game. Furthermore, the fact that less than half the PS3 userbase is online means that the lack of bots means there is no way for 50% of PS3 users to play Warhawk, except 1 v 1 with a friend.


A lot of those bots are third party and should not be counted, just like not counting Pro mod.


Pro Mod should be considered a full game even though its not from Valve. The guys making Pro-Mod created their own version of the source engine for the game.

Day of Defeat was officially licensed by Valve and is distributed by them now for like $10 so it is a game now.

CS and CSS have bots? i never knew that or generally cared for that matter. I only care about the visual settings for professional gaming (800 x 600 x 32, low quality = perfect game settings for all games, in BF max draw distance to what your PC can handle though) and I normally hit find server, I thought all bots were third party... which means they dont count..

TF2.. might idk, companies, unless their Epic Games, dont talk about their bot or their bot AI (Epic's bots = king of AI)

CS 1.6 was a mod but who cares its licensed by Valve and they charge you for it now as a stand alone game if you want just CS 1.6. Its the same with HL2: Deathmatch (hey HL2:DM doesnt have bots lol)



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Pro Mod should be considered a full game even though its not actually sold? What are you smoking?

DOD and CS were originally mods, so I really dont see how you can call a mod to retail the same as a game made professionally.



Leo-j said: If a dvd for a pc game holds what? Crysis at 3000p or something, why in the world cant a blu-ray disc do the same?

ssj12 said: Player specific decoders are nothing more than specialized GPUs. Gran Turismo is the trust driving simulator of them all. 

"Why do they call it the xbox 360? Because when you see it, you'll turn 360 degrees and walk away"