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Garnett on 02 February 2009
windbane said:
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Why, for agreeing with you at the end? You think people only like graphics because it's a popular franchise. I guess it's the same for all the publications that voted it the best graphics of 2008. What's the point of arguing with you when you are basically saying "what everyone thinks about the game is wrong"? To that, I say "not really." I happen to agree with what I think. but hey, thanks for the report.

Oh so NOW you wanna talk eh,you didnt agree with me you kept saying "not really"

And actually Gears 1 won best graphics in 07 so i guess they all were right to? So Gears 1 = best graphics ever? Thats your logic.

Talking to you is a waste of time because that makes no sense. Report me again. I'm sure a mod would get a good laugh out of that quote.

You said "What everyone thinks about the game is wrong" (Saying that MGS4 has great graphics and everyone agrees with it cause it won a FEW Graphic awards)

I said "And actually Gears 1 wont best graphics in 07 so i guess they were all right to? So Gears 1 = best graphics ever?" (Meaning that Graphic awards mean squat cause there handed out every year and a game cannot win the award twice.

Is that easy enough for you to understand? ? ? ?

Well, considering you said the exact same thing, this is my response as to whether what you are saying is making any sense: not really. Is english your first language (serious question)?

Why the hell did you say "Not really" all the times if you were agreeing with me? and im done cause your not staying on subject.

You're the one that branched down this path of the original topic. I'll have to play single player before I know if KZ2 is better than MGS4 in graphics.

Let's summarize: you said that MGS4 doesn't have awesome graphics like people think. If people think that, who are you to tell them they are wrong? So I say: not really. You say: care to elaborate? I say: not really, because you are saying what I think is wrong from the get go. You say: then you have no argument. I say: not really, because whatever I say you are just going to say I don't think correctly, so what argument can I have? (hence I agreed with you, saying I don't really have an argument)

Now, that said...what you followed with makes absolutely no sense. I said MGS4 won many awards for it's graphics, meaning it's not just gamers on this site that you are saying think incorrectly. You say, the previous year, that Gears of War won graphics awards and must be the best looking game ever? What? How did my logic lead to that, as you claim? Even if Gears was the best in 2007, which it couldn't have been because it came out in 2006 (as Kantor alludes to above), then how does that stop MGS4 from looking good in 2008?

 

I branched it out to try and get a response out of you and hear why you disagree.

 

I NEVER said KZ2 has better graphics than MGS4,I said MGS4 dosent have awesome graphics like people think.

 

Just cause alot of people think one thing is good does not make it true,example is GTA IV,LOTS of people loved it,yet some people hated it.(When you play a game you like you tend to find the hidden positives in the game,i for example play L4D and i realize how it has some of the best shaders,how ever you or anyone else could say im wrong,and to that person i could never be right and they could never be right in my eyes) (So people who loved the series plays MGS4 and see a awesome graphic game, while most people just see a game with medicore graphics.

 

Instead of saying "Not really" you could of said im not even going to bother or something along those lines,im not a fanboy,im not blind i see a game for what it is,but "not really" dosent help at all.It all seems like a misunderstanding.

 

I said Gears = best graphics ever confirmed? because alot of PS fanboys take MGS4 (which in my eyes has medicore graphics)and claim it as the best PS3 graphics game ever,which i find that Uncharted has alot better graphics IMO again.And on top of that they keep saying MGS4 cannot be done on 360 which is just fanboy BS.

1. (black bold): I only referenced the topic of discussion so I could say I was at least addressing it in case you actually did report me. I think it's impossible to even begin to discuss which game is better until they are both released.

2. What is "true" when it comes to opinion is in the eye of each beholder. Having played all the games that are considered among the best graphical powerhouses of this generation, I feel like MGS4 is the best so far. It would seem that most publications agree with me, and yet you say "most people just see a game with mediocre graphics."

3. Judging by a certain guy's response above, perhaps I shouldn't have bothered.

4. I still have NO IDEA how Gears applies to this discussion. Gears 1 or 2? You said 2007 but neither game was released in that year. Most publications voted for MGS4 over Gears 2 and yet more people own Gears 2 so you can't just say it was because there are more fans of MGS4.

 

 

I threw Gears in there because you said MGS4 won graphic awards,so i simply showed Graphic Awards mean squat,thats really it,i failed with the 2007 stuff.



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windbane on 02 February 2009

Ok, but Gears 1 was the best looking 2 years ago. In 2008, MGS4 became the best, although most think Uncharted passed Gears first.

Graphic awards don't mean everything because everyone has an opinion, but they certainly back up my argument more than yours, heh.



radha on 02 February 2009
kowenicki said:
I seriously doubt it has better story or characters..... its a FPS!

 

 

this. an also MGS is more cinematic and dramatic



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Garnett on 02 February 2009
windbane said:
Ok, but Gears 1 was the best looking 2 years ago. In 2008, MGS4 became the best, although most think Uncharted passed Gears first.

Graphic awards don't mean everything because everyone has an opinion, but they certainly back up my argument more than yours, heh.

 

That was my point,graphic awards dont mean anything.



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jingho on 02 February 2009

MGS4 is like nothing campared to Killzone 2.
After you've done MGS4's story,you're pretty much done with the whole game.
Killzone2 got better graphics and deeper multiplayer,which are going to keep you entertained for a long time.



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windbane on 02 February 2009
Garnett said:
windbane said:
Ok, but Gears 1 was the best looking 2 years ago. In 2008, MGS4 became the best, although most think Uncharted passed Gears first.

Graphic awards don't mean everything because everyone has an opinion, but they certainly back up my argument more than yours, heh.

 

That was my point,graphic awards dont mean anything.

 

Uh, I said they don't mean everything, but they certainly mean something.  Something is more than "don't mean anything."

They meant something when Gears 1 won them, they meant something when uncharted won them, and they meant something when MGS4 won them.



el_rika on 02 February 2009
jingho said:
MGS4 is like nothing campared to Killzone 2.
After you've done MGS4's story,you're pretty much done with the whole game.

 

 I'm sorry, but i finished MGS4 five times and i still have tons of stuff left to try and to achieve. I honestly wish Killzone 2 will ofer a gameplay on the same level of replayability and depth. The MP in MGS4 is ultra hardcore, i give you that, so the more casual friendly approach in Killzone 2 is great, but as far as SP gameplay i doubt Killzone 2 will be half as replayable as MGS4.



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Staude on 03 February 2009
Garnett said:
MGS4 dosent have awesome graphics like everyone thinks,infact it looks very simular to L4D,the only reason ppl like it is cause the franchise.

 

dude the graphics of left 4 dead are way outdated. If you know anything about polygons you will agree.. I'll say that it does have a great atmosphere... but pure graphical power, both texture wise, model wise.. and Especially animation wise.. it's not exacly the creme de la creme



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roarlionsroar1313 on 25 February 2009

The only game's that could challegnge MGS4 for top PS3 game that come out sometime this year are Uncharted 2 and GOW3.



alfredofroylan on 25 February 2009

Killzone 2 better than Metal Gear Solid 4?

No, but the hype is more annoying