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Past XBox losses are meaningless. The only thing that matters is current and future profits. It is not like they have a debt for the losses that they have to pay back.

The same is true for Sony. If PS3 starts making a profit, past losses will be meaningless. That money is already gone.



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WiiStation360 said:
Past XBox losses are meaningless. The only thing that matters is current and future profits. It is not like they have a debt for the losses that they have to pay back.

The same is true for Sony. If PS3 starts making a profit, past losses will be meaningless. That money is already gone.

 

Largely this is true, but not entirely. Sony and MS still have to make changes to their structure and business model so that the cost of launching a new generation is not so high. Losing 3 billion in 2 years, and then making back 2 billion over the next 4 is not a good business model, even if in 4 of 6 years you can say "the losses are in the past."



"[Our former customers] are unable to find software which they WANT to play."
"The way to solve this problem lies in how to communicate what kind of games [they CAN play]."

Satoru Iwata, Nintendo President. Only slightly paraphrased.

Microsoft is almost at a point where the yearly ROI from those losses compared to sticking the money in the bank will be at greater than a break even point.



Tease.

what was their profit/loss for september-december 09?



Hammer-of-Dawn said:
what was their profit/loss for september-december 09?

My wonky time machine malfunctioned, so I cannot answer that...sorry.

 



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Jackson50 said:
Hammer-of-Dawn said:
what was their profit/loss for september-december 09?

My wonky time machine malfunctioned, so I cannot answer that...sorry.

 

 

 oops i meant 08. The topic creator is implying they posted a loss.



Squilliam said:
Microsoft is almost at a point where the yearly ROI from those losses compared to sticking the money in the bank will be at greater than a break even point.

 

Making back 10% of what you lost is not the same as making 10% return on an investment.

That $6B is a lost expense for MS.



"[Our former customers] are unable to find software which they WANT to play."
"The way to solve this problem lies in how to communicate what kind of games [they CAN play]."

Satoru Iwata, Nintendo President. Only slightly paraphrased.

Hammer-of-Dawn said:
Jackson50 said:
Hammer-of-Dawn said:
what was their profit/loss for september-december 09?

My wonky time machine malfunctioned, so I cannot answer that...sorry.

 

 

 oops i meant 08. The topic creator is implying they posted a loss.

 

Oh, 2008...this will have the information you seek



Jackson50 said:
Hammer-of-Dawn said:
Jackson50 said:
Hammer-of-Dawn said:
what was their profit/loss for september-december 09?

My wonky time machine malfunctioned, so I cannot answer that...sorry.

 

 

 oops i meant 08. The topic creator is implying they posted a loss.

 

Oh, 2008...this will have the information you seek

from what i understand the division posted a $150 million loss for the 3 months?

 



Hammer-of-Dawn said:
Jackson50 said:
Hammer-of-Dawn said:
Jackson50 said:
Hammer-of-Dawn said:
what was their profit/loss for september-december 09?

My wonky time machine malfunctioned, so I cannot answer that...sorry.

 

 

 oops i meant 08. The topic creator is implying they posted a loss.

 

Oh, 2008...this will have the information you seek

from what i understand the division posted a $150 million loss for the 3 months?

 

no $151 million Profit.