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Forums - Gaming - Ruh-roh... NHL 08 is 60fps on 360 and 30fps on PS3

EA announced this at E3. This is not news. lol.

Anyway, as long as it is a steady 30FPS I really couldn't give a damn. I think this is getting blown out of proportion. EA reported months ago that they are having difficulty programming for the PS3 and they requested Sony's assistance to fix it. Obviously that was too late for this years games, but EA didn't bust our 60FPS on the 360 in it's first year on the market. They are aware of the problem and will fix it but a delayed PS3 version just to make it 60FPS is unacceptable for all sides.

Seriously, people need to take a chill pill with this.



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It's not lazyness and it's not an anti-Sony conspiracy: it's basic economics and business sense.


Facts:

-EA may be huge but like any company it has limited resources.

-Most of these sports games sell mostly in the US.

-The 360 has a huge hardware lead over the PS3 in the US.

-360 owners buy more games per console than PS3 owners.

-These games all sell way better on the 360 than the PS3.

It would make no sense for EA to purposely make the PS3 versions bad, that would just hurt their profits. But it does make sense for them to prioritize the 360 version over the PS3 version based on the facts stated above.

 

EA prioritizing 360 over PS3

"A representative with the publisher told the writer that as a release date nears, the company sometimes readjusts the manpower on the projects to complete the Xbox 360 version first.

With a larger installed base for Microsoft's console, the rep said it makes financial sense to get that version of a game out first and maximize potential sales. The representative also noted that in the last generation, it made more sense for the publisher to focus on PlayStation 2 versions of games over those on the Xbox because of the platform's massive installed user base."



We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that they [developers] want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so the question is what do you do for the rest of the nine and half years? It's a learning process. - SCEI president Kaz Hirai

It's a virus where you buy it and you play it with your friends and they're like, "Oh my God that's so cool, I'm gonna go buy it." So you stop playing it after two months, but they buy it and they stop playing it after two months but they've showed it to someone else who then go out and buy it and so on. Everyone I know bought one and nobody turns it on. - Epic Games president Mike Capps

We have a real culture of thrift. The goal that I had in bringing a lot of the packaged goods folks into Activision about 10 years ago was to take all the fun out of making video games. - Activision CEO Bobby Kotick

 

Even though the only game I really care about is NCAA Football 2008, which I bought anyway for the PS3, this is getting really annoying.  I've seen the comparison video and there's really not much difference, but you'd think EA could get this together sooner.

Gran Turismo 5 will be 1080p at 60fps.  It's the best looking game ever. 

EA will get it right by next year, so let's just stop complaining about it.

Btw, NHL 08 is supposed to be the first EA game with online leagues.  It's about time they got that right, too. 



LOL

EA is so stupid its not even funny, god damn they suck.



Wait... the NHL still exists?

Kinda surprising they can't get the hocky game to run 60FPS. It's not like football where there is an overwhelming amount of players.



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sinha said:

It's not lazyness and it's not an anti-Sony conspiracy: it's basic economics and business sense.


Facts:

-EA may be huge but like any company it has limited resources.

-Most of these sports games sell mostly in the US.

-The 360 has a huge hardware lead over the PS3 in the US.

-360 owners buy more games per console than PS3 owners.

-These games all sell way better on the 360 than the PS3.

It would make no sense for EA to purposely make the PS3 versions bad, that would just hurt their profits. But it does make sense for them to prioritize the 360 version over the PS3 version based on the facts stated above.

 

EA prioritizing 360 over PS3

"A representative with the publisher told the writer that as a release date nears, the company sometimes readjusts the manpower on the projects to complete the Xbox 360 version first.

With a larger installed base for Microsoft's console, the rep said it makes financial sense to get that version of a game out first and maximize potential sales. The representative also noted that in the last generation, it made more sense for the publisher to focus on PlayStation 2 versions of games over those on the Xbox because of the platform's massive installed user base.

 or else we buy more downloadable games then retail games because of craptastic ports. I own 9 downloadable games and 5 retail.

 



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The safe bet is that for (at least) the next 2 game/years (NHL/NFL 2008+2009) the XBox 360 will have a larger user base in North America than the PS3; on top of that the XBox 360 also offers a much lower cost of entry into the market (core $280, Priemium $350) than the PS3. All in all this means that it is likely the XBox 360 version will sell better and thus it makes more sense to spend the extra money optimizing the XBox 360 version.

On top of that I believe Microsoft has a better understanding on how important Madden (and other EA sports titles) are in the North American market; they probably are far more willing to send their engineers on the "Long" flight from Seattle to Vancouver to help optimize EA's games.



sinha said:

It's not lazyness and it's not an anti-Sony conspiracy: it's basic economics and business sense.


Facts:

-EA may be huge but like any company it has limited resources.

-Most of these sports games sell mostly in the US.

-The 360 has a huge hardware lead over the PS3 in the US.

-360 owners buy more games per console than PS3 owners.

-These games all sell way better on the 360 than the PS3.

It would make no sense for EA to purposely make the PS3 versions bad, that would just hurt their profits. But it does make sense for them to prioritize the 360 version over the PS3 version based on the facts stated above.

 

EA prioritizing 360 over PS3

"A representative with the publisher told the writer that as a release date nears, the company sometimes readjusts the manpower on the projects to complete the Xbox 360 version first.

With a larger installed base for Microsoft's console, the rep said it makes financial sense to get that version of a game out first and maximize potential sales. The representative also noted that in the last generation, it made more sense for the publisher to focus on PlayStation 2 versions of games over those on the Xbox because of the platform's massive installed user base."


It sucks for PS3 owners but i'm sure EA had calculated how much it was gonna cost to optimize these games and how much return they would get from it and decided it wasn't worth it.  It's just business.



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leo-j said:
omg.. Why doesnt sony do something about this?

What can Sony do?  Get their mother to call EA's mother?

Badmouth EA?  Yeah that'll get EA pumped to put effort in fixing the framerate problem.

Ban EA games from their system?  Not only would they lose a lot of games, most importantly they'd lose the ONLY NFL game.  This is fairly important since Football is big buisness and a lot of PS3 owners would want an NFL game. 

 



sinha said:

It's not lazyness and it's not an anti-Sony conspiracy: it's basic economics and business sense.


Facts:

-EA may be huge but like any company it has limited resources.

-Most of these sports games sell mostly in the US.

-The 360 has a huge hardware lead over the PS3 in the US.

-360 owners buy more games per console than PS3 owners.

-These games all sell way better on the 360 than the PS3.

It would make no sense for EA to purposely make the PS3 versions bad, that would just hurt their profits. But it does make sense for them to prioritize the 360 version over the PS3 version based on the facts stated above.

 

EA prioritizing 360 over PS3

"A representative with the publisher told the writer that as a release date nears, the company sometimes readjusts the manpower on the projects to complete the Xbox 360 version first.

With a larger installed base for Microsoft's console, the rep said it makes financial sense to get that version of a game out first and maximize potential sales. The representative also noted that in the last generation, it made more sense for the publisher to focus on PlayStation 2 versions of games over those on the Xbox because of the platform's massive installed user base."


I'm not so sure I'd call those "facts," as that's a loaded word, but certainly "very educated assumptions." In general, I agree wholeheartedly.



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