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Nirvana_Nut85 on 23 January 2009

I believe and god and I believe that Jesus Christ is my saviour and I won't ever deny it no matter what people say.

To be honest I believe that Evolution is just a bunch of New World Order propaganda, hell the scientific community won't even allow there to be proper debates between Intelligent Design and Evolution and anyone who does a research paper even stating possibilities of I.D is scrutinized and looses funding or there job (watch Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed, really good movie)

I don't know I find it less crazy to believe that there is a god who created this Universe and thats how life started, than to to have a theory of life staring off the back of crystals (thats a popular theory of how we went from an inorganic world to that of the cell......WOW)



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Nirvana_Nut85 on 23 January 2009
WessleWoggle said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:
I believe and god and I believe that Jesus Christ is my saviour and I won't ever deny it no matter what people say.

To be honest I believe that Evolution is just a bunch of New World Order propaganda, hell the scientific community won't even allow there to be proper debates between Intelligent Design and Evolution and anyone who does a research paper even stating possibilities of I.D is scrutinized and looses funding or there job (watch Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed, really good movie)

I don't know I find it less crazy to believe that there is a god who created this Universe and thats how life started, than to to have a theory of life staring off the back of crystals (thats a popular theory of how we went from an inorganic world to that of the cell......WOW)

Since you believe in Jesus I won't argue that...

But in the case of Intelligent design, where's the proof? What grounds do they have for "proper debates"?

Oh, and I find it crazy to believe in any universal origin since it's unknowable at the moment.

 

 At the same time why do they allow there to be discussion of life starting off the backs of crystals but when there is some really interesting theories for I.D people are scrutinized and loose there jobs, seriously, watch the movie Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed, it's very insightful.



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SamuelRSmith on 23 January 2009

I think Intelligent Design got a passing mention in my Religious Studies class, once.



Rath on 23 January 2009
Nirvana_Nut85 said:
WessleWoggle said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:
I believe and god and I believe that Jesus Christ is my saviour and I won't ever deny it no matter what people say.

To be honest I believe that Evolution is just a bunch of New World Order propaganda, hell the scientific community won't even allow there to be proper debates between Intelligent Design and Evolution and anyone who does a research paper even stating possibilities of I.D is scrutinized and looses funding or there job (watch Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed, really good movie)

I don't know I find it less crazy to believe that there is a god who created this Universe and thats how life started, than to to have a theory of life staring off the back of crystals (thats a popular theory of how we went from an inorganic world to that of the cell......WOW)

Since you believe in Jesus I won't argue that...

But in the case of Intelligent design, where's the proof? What grounds do they have for "proper debates"?

Oh, and I find it crazy to believe in any universal origin since it's unknowable at the moment.

 

 At the same time why do they allow there to be discussion of life starting off the backs of crystals but when there is some really interesting theories for I.D people are scrutinized and loose there jobs, seriously, watch the movie Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed, it's very insightful.

Seriously? That movie has been hugely debunked as being terribly misleading in pretty much all aspects. Have a read through this article. Also have a browse through the wikipedia page, it has even more interesting (and quite well sourced) stuff.



Blacksaber on 23 January 2009

Yes and no. I feel there could be something but I doubt it. So I'm a weak atheist really...



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Strategyking92 on 23 January 2009
WessleWoggle said:
Strategyking92 said:

so you are saying religious people have to stupid, not crazy , eh?

and for the second highlighted- you don't believe, so you will not receive

I actually went through a stage where I almost became an athiest... I stopped praying, got bored or it.  But there is a place where science and religion co-exist. And now I truely believe.

I don't know, maybe I just find it disturbing that you are just that sick.  You will never get anywhere with your outlook on things as is right now.

 

 

 

First bold... I think I will receive. The lord should respect my tenacity and goodwill, and my inherent skepticism. You did remember I said I was agnostic right? I've asked Jesus to save me just in case he's real, and from what all the feel good christians tell me he should be cool with my extreme skeptical wishy washy idea that he may or may not be divine, he's all about forgiveness right?

My problem is no matter how douchey, or nice, the approach doesn't matter, I can't get anything but faithwank out of you serious religious types, when it comes down to barebone philosophy. I really can't understand someone thinking, when they think deeply, they have true wisdom, because If you think deep enough, the only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. But then again I already stated I think better than those types in my own opinion.

What type of thinker are you choosing to be? So far you've been the faithwank kind, not the smart kind.

What do you mean I will never get anywhere? You don't know me.

 

 

Being agnostic is not the same as being in christianity. "just in case" doesn't cut it. I thought you, who were 'oh so smart' knew that. And the forgiveness part is cancelled out when you have already had the chance to be a christian. Like when you deliberately sin even though you know he's up there... same rules apply. This isn't Islam, or hinduism we're talking about here.

 

As for the second part... HAHAHAHA!!!!! I would not call myself a serious religious type. I hate church. I usually fall asleep.  I don't walk around shouting 'the end is neigh, repent!' I just believe what I believe. I don't bother other people. But when people have the nerve to call me out, I respond in kind.

 

 

And what type of thinker are YOU choosing to be? So far you've been the faithwank type, not the smart type. Now, when I call you a faith wanker, I mean your pure audacity to believe you're better than others, and that you will get get away with things. So, you wanked your own faith

 

You are right- I do not know you. But if you publicly show your true colors like you did earlier (unless you were lying, of course, which I doubt, since you went into deep detail) such as your giant ego and arrogance, then a small fraction of people will respect you. I don't know, maybe religious people would like being called and thought of as stupid ?

 

 

 

 



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BTFeather55 on 23 January 2009
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 Cute!



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FaRmLaNd on 23 January 2009

God of the gaps. Thats what God has been reduced to. God isn't dead but he's most certainly dying a slow death.



Strategyking92 on 23 January 2009
WessleWoggle said:
Strategyking92 said:

Being agnostic is not the same as being in christianity. "just in case" doesn't cut it. I thought you, who were 'oh so smart' knew that. And the forgiveness part is cancelled out when you have already had the chance to be a christian. Like when you deliberately sin even though you know he's up there... same rules apply. This isn't Islam, or hinduism we're talking about here.


As for the second part... HAHAHAHA!!!!! I would not call myself a serious religious type. I hate church. I usually fall asleep.  I don't walk around shouting 'the end is neigh, repent!' I just believe what I believe. I don't bother other people. But when people have the nerve to call me out, I respond in kind.

 

 

And what type of thinker are YOU choosing to be? So far you've been the faithwank type, not the smart type. Now, when I call you a faith wanker, I mean your pure audacity to believe you're better than others, and that you will get get away with things. So, you wanked your own faith

 

You are right- I do not know you. But if you publicly show your true colors like you did earlier (unless you were lying, of course, which I doubt, since you went into deep detail) such as your giant ego and arrogance, then a small fraction of people will respect you. I don't know, maybe religious people would like being called and thought of as stupid ?

 

 

 

 

I've met people who disagree with you and think agnosticism Is just fine for being saved. I've met people who think you need to do a bunch of bullshit rituals to get saved. I'll pick the one that suites me most, like all people do. I am "oh so smart". It's all subjective when it comes to afterlife beliefs, pick your bullshit, and don't be afraid of it. Besides, I don't sin. Unless you count homosexuality and indecent sexual thoughts sin, which you may, but that's another argument.... My philosophy, well one of them, is do as you will if it harms none. I try to cause as little harm in the world as I can. So, by my logic I don't sin much.

You are a serious religious type to me. My definition for serious religious types is very broad, and you stated you just believe what you believe, and that makes your a serious type to me. Nonserious religious types have silly reasons behind what they believe, and are denying the fact they only believe because of faith. You seem to accept that fact.

 Friend, if you actually conversate deeply about your views instead of wank the faith cock, I think you'll find my colors are a bit more palatable.

But I also consider myself stupid, atleast on a basic human level of stupidity. So it's not really an insult, just me asserting myself as an equal with you on that level... But the part of me that doesn't give a damn and wants to speak objectively is not stupid. It corrects things stupid human minded me says.

Have I contradicted myself too much throughout this? Maybe, but I'm too tired to check.

 

Anything to add?

 

 

Well.. I do not know what kind of christianity they practice. People interprete things differently, although it doesn't change the base rules.

 

Contradiction. You are tired.

 

That makes sense... I just meant I don't act like the youth group at my church *shudders* I am subtle.

 

The only reason I am not conversing with alot of crap text is because I don't want to waste  the time, and I'm sick. I've been sick for a year.

 

And the last part makes sense... Everybody is stupid, and ignorant. Now if you had only stated those views earlier, I might not have found it as saying all christians are stupid. It's everybody, thus we are all equal, sort of. Now what I mean by stupid, is stupid compared to what we do not know in the grand scheme of things. I mean.. The universe. The meaning of life. (lol, 42?)... and everything. We're just insignificant human beings.



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Strategyking92 on 23 January 2009

Yeah... Christian church groups are nice... Sickeningly so. And about preaching aloud, if people want hope or whatever, they can go find religion... I just find it awkward to talk about those things aloud But at the same time, you have to outreach somehow. I mean, there is a time and place for everything.



And that's the only thing I need is *this*. I don't need this or this. Just this PS4... And this gaming PC. - The PS4 and the Gaming PC and that's all I need... And this Xbox 360. - The PS4, the Gaming PC, and the Xbox 360, and that's all I need... And these PS3's. - The PS4, and these PS3's, and the Gaming PC, and the Xbox 360... And this Nintendo DS. - The PS4, this Xbox 360, and the Gaming PC, and the PS3's, and that's all *I* need. And that's *all* I need too. I don't need one other thing, not one... I need this. - The Gaming PC and PS4, and Xbox 360, and thePS3's . Well what are you looking at? What do you think I'm some kind of a jerk or something! - And this. That's all I need.

Obligatory dick measuring Gaming Laptop Specs: Sager NP8270-GTX: 17.3" FULL HD (1920X1080) LED Matte LC, nVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M, Intel Core i7-4700MQ, 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3, 750GB SATA II 3GB/s 7,200 RPM Hard Drive