I love seeing "games like Gears of War, Lost Planet, and Crackdown" because those are the same game to me. It'll be interesting when mass effect and fable 2 come out, but don't count GTA in a "system seller" for just the 360, of course. As for Halo 3...I wouldn't be too surprised if it didn't sell a LOT of systems because everyone that bought a 360 was just waiting for halo 3 to come out. We'll see

Actually I was talking about Europe for the 360 compaired to the PS3 in America.

Actually, it won't be fair to compare the two markets since US is bigger than EU and 360isn't that popular in EU compared to the US. Note also that there isn't monthly sales numbers for EU so...

That's a quite difficult question. There are no real sale statistics for europe. The only statiscs in some countries are simply predictions based on the internal statistics of bigger store chains of this country. But statistics for all of europe (however you define it) and even on a monthly time frame, impossible.

i dont know which one of you said the 360 is dominating the european market but in all fairness its not.. they are good but not great numbers.. playstation products have always dominated europe. whoever started this forum was tryin to say that the american market is the 360s really only stronghold

Yes but I think some people just wanted to point out that PS3 is a little bit more expensive in EU, and that in some countries Xbox360 is building up a fan base. So to say that Xbox360 is dead is a little bit stupid. Of course the same thing can be said about PS3.

You can't really predict who the biggest seller will be. Especially in the Next Gen Market. Most European households don't even own a HDTV. Add to it the bigger prices (400 Euro for a premium Xbox 360 was the standard) and the prvious dominance of the Playstation. but in fact especially since last christmas there was a shift.People who were determined to get the Playstation now have a Xbox 360. Another hit, the drop of hardware compability. And especially the price. 600 Euro for a console is insane, either you buy it as a bluray player or you won't buy it! The accepted price range for a console starts more or less between 250 and 200 Euro. The first console that breaks this border has a good chance to win the market. Don't forget, most games reach the european market via the US. Since the USA will be probably dominated by the Xbox 360 this plattforms has a very good chance to win especially due the higher likelihood of multi plattform games due to higher development costs and the easier portability, which would end the dominance of certain game genres on the Xbox.

I said games like Gears of War, Lost Planet and Crackdown because they're all fairly large releases that are selling some pretty good numbers(It's an assumption with Crackdown of course, but I'm sure it'll be a big game in Feb). Gears has already sold a hell of a lot and Lost planet was the number one game this January. As for whether they're the same, thats a debate for another thread. I said GTA because it will sell systems. Now whether it will sell more on the PS3 or 360 is debatable, but I'm predicting that it will sell better on the console with a higher sales base, a cheaper price and a biger selection of other games to back up that initial purchase. And yes, Halo 3 will sell a lot of systems, as it's undoubtably going to be the most anticipated game of this gen.

Actually the 360 is selling far better than the XB did in Japan and Europe, so sales are better.

Which is exactly my point, Kwaad stating that similar PS2 and PS3 sales figures doesn't automatically mean the PS3 will sell 110m+ consoles. Obviously the 360 is selling better than the original Xbox. Wasn't a shot against any console, was just stating something that should be common sense in MOST peoples case.