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largedarryl on 20 January 2009
rendo said:
And also consider this. If we didn't hunt the seals, they'd overpopulate and exhaust their food supply and simply starve to death in a few years. In both scenarios seals die, but there's also fish for the people in the region.

Actually most ecosystems follow cyclical pattern based on reproduction rates of the lower food chain species.  The biggest problem with the ecosystem in the North Atlantic is the humans hunting seals has had humans hunting seals as part of the ecosystem for a very long time.  Since this ecosystem has never been observed without human interaction, it is very likely that several species could completely die out, mostly from starvation and disease.



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Seece on 20 January 2009

Why do I feel I would prefer a "Seal Clubber" get a death sentance rather than someone that killed a man ...



 

mesoteto on 20 January 2009

i dont know about you guys but this thread is making me hungry.....and since its snowing out side i think i might og try and find me a baby seal




*six hours later*


nope couldn't find one in Indiana so i had to make this insted



 

largedarryl on 20 January 2009
seece said:
Why do I feel I would prefer a "Seal Clubber" get a death sentance rather than someone that killed a man ...

Well if start taking non-human life = human life, why not target mass murderers, genociders, etc.

Tree = alive

Paper = dead

Lumberjack = murder

Cockroach in your house = alive

Cockroach swept into the garbage after being gassed = dead

Exterminator = mass murder

Rat on a farm = alive

Dead rat in Alberta from rat hunt = dead

Albertans = genociders

 

Does this sound stupid, I would hope so.

 



pearljammer on 20 January 2009
seece said:
Why do I feel I would prefer a "Seal Clubber" get a death sentance rather than someone that killed a man ...

I have no idea, watched too many Disney movies perhaps (Kidding, I love disney movies!!)

 



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Ps3 on 20 January 2009

Hunting seals already ended the Caribbean Monk Seal. Hunting more seals will end the Harp Seals. They can just go cut a hole in the idea somewhere and catch a fish.



 

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Seece on 20 January 2009
largedarryl said:
seece said:
Why do I feel I would prefer a "Seal Clubber" get a death sentance rather than someone that killed a man ...

Well if start taking non-human life = human life, why not target mass murderers, genociders, etc.

Tree = alive

Paper = dead

Lumberjack = murder

Cockroach in your house = alive

Cockroach swept into the garbage after being gassed = dead

Exterminator = mass murder

Rat on a farm = alive

Dead rat in Alberta from rat hunt = dead

Albertans = genociders

 

Does this sound stupid, I would hope so.

 

Rats and Cockroach are hardly the same as seals, besides they're pests.

 



 

Ps3 on 20 January 2009
largedarryl said:
Ps3 said:
Okay lets let the eating issue go for a second.. People eat to survive.. Do we really need oils, furs, blubbers and whatever?

Have you taken the time to educate yourself on this subject yet?  If not we can start with something that you asked.

Oils - They can be used for heating, and the fact that humans have managed to move to a using a non-renewable resource for heating means that we will run out.  There is nothing wrong with using renewable resources for this, things like trees and blubbers make excellent fuels for heat.

Furs - Also a renewable resource, and the fact that we use synthetic materials is probably worse for the environment and causes more harm then using furs from animals.

Food - This is a needed for all human life and as I have currently stated before, after western civilization nearly wiped out all the Inuit and Native from these parts of Canada, a vital part of the ecosystem was changed.  Now we are needed to regulate the population of Seals since there is no longer humans hunting seals for a way to live.  So every year the commercial seal hunt occurs, the Canadian government does surveys to determine the current population of seals and releases a quota of how many seals need to be hunted to regulate the population.  The stability of the seal population works in turn to stabalize the fish population in the North Atlantic Ocean, which works in turn to stabalize everything else in the ecosystem.  Anything changing this balance (i.e. high seal populations), would create something very similar to other unregulated ecosystems that go through cyclical changes of up and down population growth (most deaths is caused by starvation and disease).  Now since this particular ecosystem has been at this state for centuries, humans leaving the picture could cause serious issues in the ecosystem worst case being extinction of several species of fish, plant life, lobsters, etc.

 

Is there any other legitimate questions you have about the seal hunt?  And to correct you (again) the commercial seal hunt cannot harvast baby seals, its illegal.

 

 

Do we really need Seal Oil? We have Vegtable Oil, Olive oil and so on. It's un needed, it's just an excuse to hunt IMO.

 

Do we need seal fur? Used multed bird feathers, or maybe even cotton?

 

Food again, go cut a hole in the ice and catch a fish or eat something else. it's just like me saying WOW LOOK AT THAT STRAY DOG ON THE STREET. Are you hungry go eat it.



 

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largedarryl on 20 January 2009
seece said:
largedarryl said:
seece said:
Why do I feel I would prefer a "Seal Clubber" get a death sentance rather than someone that killed a man ...

Well if start taking non-human life = human life, why not target mass murderers, genociders, etc.

Tree = alive

Paper = dead

Lumberjack = murder

Cockroach in your house = alive

Cockroach swept into the garbage after being gassed = dead

Exterminator = mass murder

Rat on a farm = alive

Dead rat in Alberta from rat hunt = dead

Albertans = genociders

 

Does this sound stupid, I would hope so.

 

Rats and Cockroach are hardly the same as seals, besides they're pests.

 

Depends who you talk too, but seals are pests to fisheries.  If I have a fish farm, and seal comes in and eats my fish he is now a pest.

 

I used rats and cockroaces to take your fundamental idea to its logical conclusion.  I am attempting to not rant about this, but I really get worked up when someone believes that an animals life is equal to a humans life.

 



Ps3 on 20 January 2009
seece said:
largedarryl said:
seece said:
Why do I feel I would prefer a "Seal Clubber" get a death sentance rather than someone that killed a man ...

Well if start taking non-human life = human life, why not target mass murderers, genociders, etc.

Tree = alive

Paper = dead

Lumberjack = murder

Cockroach in your house = alive

Cockroach swept into the garbage after being gassed = dead

Exterminator = mass murder

Rat on a farm = alive

Dead rat in Alberta from rat hunt = dead

Albertans = genociders

 

Does this sound stupid, I would hope so.

 

Rats and Cockroach are hardly the same as seals, besides they're pests.

 

 

Right! You are so right. Rat's and Roaches have such small brains the only things they probably know how to do is eat and breed. Comparing a Seal to a pest is terrible, and is the worst example I've seen posted in this thread so far.



 

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