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Ps3 on 23 January 2009
pearljammer said:
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TruckOSaurus said:
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TruckOSaurus said:

Pigheaded

pig·head·ed  (pghdd) adj.

1. Stupidly obstinate.

2. Ps3 on VGChartz.com

 

Pot meet kettle.

Really? I can admit when people make a good point even if they don't share my point of view. All you do is refute logical arguments with lies and empty statements like "but it's a fucking seal".

Well if I don't agree with the point I don't have to admit its a good point, cause I disagree wth it. It is a seal though.

 

Haha, are you puling our legs? Bravo if you are, seriously, I mean that. But if you are serious...

No you don't have to admit it's a good point, but you do have to refute it, otherwise one can only assume one of two things:

1. You have to no counter point and concede the argument; or

2. You have no idea what you're talking about.

 

This isn't a joke. Seals are being murdered.

 

I'm not! Everyone here is saying I'm wrong, so I'm defending myself.

 

or option 3. You just love seal hunts and you are bringing my opinion down to make the hunters feel better about hurting innocent lives.

 

Or option 4. You are selfish and only care about your life and no other living thing



 

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TruckOSaurus on 23 January 2009
Ps3 said:
TruckOSaurus said:

Really? I can admit when people make a good point even if they don't share my point of view. All you do is refute logical arguments with lies and empty statements like "but it's a fucking seal".

Well if I don't agree with the point I don't have to admit its a good point, cause I disagree wth it. It is a seal though.

 

Let's do this step by step :

1. You eat beef

2. Cows are killed in slaughterhouses in the most humane way possible.

3. The Royal Commission on Seals and Sealing in Canada, also known as the Malouf Commission, claims that properly performed clubbing is at least as humane as the methods used in commercial slaughterhouses, and according to the Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada (DFO), these studies "have consistently proven that the club or hakapik is an efficient tool designed to kill the animal quickly and humanely."

So if both animals are killed in a relatively equivalent way (humanely speaking), who are you to say the seal hunt is worst than raising cows?



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pearljammer on 23 January 2009
Ps3 said:
pearljammer said:
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1. Hardly any. They're mammals. If you're to base your argument off of that alone, your argument will only fail as much as this one is.

2. "Cause its a fucking seal." - What does that even mean?? I can say "Cause it's a fucking cow!".

I'm nobody to say that it's normal. The fact that I acknowledge that says a lot about the difference between our two ideas.

1. How does that fail, if assholes are killing them like they are seals and they only have a few babys in their lives thats fucked up. But since they have no predators, I guess its okay to a certain point.. But moose meat is still weird...

 

2. But fucking cows are probably the most popular meat. And we dont beat them to death.

Again, how does popularity have anything to do with it? That's just shallow?

No, they're not beat to death, but have you even been to a slaughterhouse? To make it look more like the seal situation, picture a white sheet placed over the floor.

 

It's not shallow. Killing things that don't reproduce a lot is just upping that animals chance for extinction.

 

2. Why the hell would I want to go to a slaughter house. slaughter houses are done indoors. They go to these seals homes and kill them.

 

1. I ask about popularity, and you respond with reproduction. The quota for the amount of seals allowed for a hunt are based on their sustainablity.

2. Would it be better if we grew little seals up in closed quarters, so far away from their natural habitat only to be killed? That's messed...

"Who are you to say my argument is flawed?" - Who are you to say these people are evil? Which of the two assumptions do you think are more potentially hurtful to someone.

I meant flawed as in making presumptions about people you haven't even met, or even likely heard from before.



Ps3 on 23 January 2009
TruckOSaurus said:
Ps3 said:
TruckOSaurus said:

Really? I can admit when people make a good point even if they don't share my point of view. All you do is refute logical arguments with lies and empty statements like "but it's a fucking seal".

Well if I don't agree with the point I don't have to admit its a good point, cause I disagree wth it. It is a seal though.

 

Let's do this step by step :

1. You eat beef

2. Cows are killed in slaughterhouses in the most humane way possible.

3. The Royal Commission on Seals and Sealing in Canada, also known as the Malouf Commission, claims that properly performed clubbing is at least as humane as the methods used in commercial slaughterhouses, and according to the Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada (DFO), these studies "have consistently proven that the club or hakapik is an efficient tool designed to kill the animal quickly and humanely."

So if both animals are killed in a relatively equivalent way (humanely speaking), who are you to say the seal hunt is worst than raising cows?

1. I eat it once in a while, and cows are normal food.

 

2. They get hit by an electric gun that kills them in one hit. Seals are beat with sticks right in their home.

 

3. They are PROBABLY just saying that to try and better themselves and try and make people feel less sorry for eating seals. like WTF whoo eats seals!?

 



 

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Ps3 on 23 January 2009
pearljammer said:
Ps3 said:
pearljammer said:
Ps3 said:
pearljammer said:

1. Hardly any. They're mammals. If you're to base your argument off of that alone, your argument will only fail as much as this one is.

2. "Cause its a fucking seal." - What does that even mean?? I can say "Cause it's a fucking cow!".

I'm nobody to say that it's normal. The fact that I acknowledge that says a lot about the difference between our two ideas.

1. How does that fail, if assholes are killing them like they are seals and they only have a few babys in their lives thats fucked up. But since they have no predators, I guess its okay to a certain point.. But moose meat is still weird...

 

2. But fucking cows are probably the most popular meat. And we dont beat them to death.

Again, how does popularity have anything to do with it? That's just shallow?

No, they're not beat to death, but have you even been to a slaughterhouse? To make it look more like the seal situation, picture a white sheet placed over the floor.

 

It's not shallow. Killing things that don't reproduce a lot is just upping that animals chance for extinction.

 

2. Why the hell would I want to go to a slaughter house. slaughter houses are done indoors. They go to these seals homes and kill them.

 

1. I ask about popularity, and you respond with reproduction. The quota for the amount of seals allowed for a hunt are based on their sustainablity.

2. Would it be better if we grew little seals up in closed quarters, so far away from their natural habitat only to be killed? That's messed...

"Who are you to say my argument is flawed?" - Who are you to say these people are evil? Which of the two assumptions do you think are more potentially hurtful to someone.

I meant flawed as in making presumptions about people you haven't even met, or even likely heard from before.

1. Whatever

2. It's bad either way. But still to be beat by clubs is worse.

I can say they are evil if they are killing things. And don't care if I ever met them, they are still killing seals. You gotta be kidding.. You want me to argue with you right?



 

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pearljammer on 23 January 2009
Ps3 said:
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Haha, are you puling our legs? Bravo if you are, seriously, I mean that. But if you are serious...

No you don't have to admit it's a good point, but you do have to refute it, otherwise one can only assume one of two things:

1. You have to no counter point and concede the argument; or

2. You have no idea what you're talking about.

 

This isn't a joke. Seals are being murdered.

 

I'm not! Everyone here is saying I'm wrong, so I'm defending myself.

 

or option 3. You just love seal hunts and you are bringing my opinion down to make the hunters feel better about hurting innocent lives.

 

Or option 4. You are selfish and only care about your life and no other living thing

I don't even know what to say. I'd first like to ask how old you are, because I have no intentions on dragging this out with a kid.

Your extra two options aren't even logically connected to my list. It doesn't even make sense.

3. I don't love seal hunts. I'd never even be able to kill an animal. I wouldn't even hold a gun. But I can respect others choice to do so. I said this already, keep up, kid.

4. Where have I given any indication that I care about no other living thing?



Xeta on 23 January 2009

So what you're saying is, theoretically, if we found a way to lock up seals with poor care (indoors since that makes everything better), then shot them to death (because clubbing is the worst thing ever!), and seal meat became more popular worldwide, it wouldn't be an issue anymore?



Ps3 on 23 January 2009
pearljammer said:
Ps3 said:
pearljammer said:

Haha, are you puling our legs? Bravo if you are, seriously, I mean that. But if you are serious...

No you don't have to admit it's a good point, but you do have to refute it, otherwise one can only assume one of two things:

1. You have to no counter point and concede the argument; or

2. You have no idea what you're talking about.

 

This isn't a joke. Seals are being murdered.

 

I'm not! Everyone here is saying I'm wrong, so I'm defending myself.

 

or option 3. You just love seal hunts and you are bringing my opinion down to make the hunters feel better about hurting innocent lives.

 

Or option 4. You are selfish and only care about your life and no other living thing

I don't even know what to say. I'd first like to ask how old you are, because I have no intentions on dragging this out with a kid.

Your extra two options aren't even logically connected to my list. It doesn't even make sense.

3. I don't love seal hunts. I'd never even be able to kill an animal. I wouldn't even hold a gun. But I can respect others choice to do so. I said this already, keep up, kid.

4. Where have I given any indication that I care about no other living thing?

I'm no child so don't worry about that.

 

So you say they don't make sense...

 

3. Then you don't like animals.

 

4. You make it sound like it.

 



 

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pearljammer on 23 January 2009
Ps3 said:
pearljammer said:

1. I ask about popularity, and you respond with reproduction. The quota for the amount of seals allowed for a hunt are based on their sustainablity.

2. Would it be better if we grew little seals up in closed quarters, so far away from their natural habitat only to be killed? That's messed...

"Who are you to say my argument is flawed?" - Who are you to say these people are evil? Which of the two assumptions do you think are more potentially hurtful to someone.

I meant flawed as in making presumptions about people you haven't even met, or even likely heard from before.

1. Whatever

2. It's bad either way. But still to be beat by clubs is worse.

I can say they are evil if they are killing things. And don't care if I ever met them, they are still killing seals. You gotta be kidding.. You want me to argue with you right?

1. Good one. Intelligent, constructive fellow we have here!

If something is evil if they kill something, then you are too! You eat cows! Murderer, you sick Fuck! (Obviously being facetious here).

"You gotta be kidding.. You want me to argue with you right?" - Kidding about what, exactly?

 



Ps3 on 23 January 2009
Xeta said:
So what you're saying is, theoretically, if we found a way to lock up seals with poor care (indoors since that makes everything better), then shot them to death (because clubbing is the worst thing ever!), and seal meat became more popular worldwide, it wouldn't be an issue anymore?

 

NO!! *FACEPALM* They shouldn't be killed. It's fucking weird to eat seals, its like eating glue!!



 

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