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Ps3 on 23 January 2009

And how do you explain this picture on the first page?

http://www.seashepherd.org/seals/resources/pictures/seal_clubbing_4.jpg



 

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Ps3 on 23 January 2009
largedarryl said:
Ps3 said:
bouzane said:
Ps3 said:
bouzane said:

 

 It's tastier, healthier, more humanely killed and had a better life than what's on the menu at any restaurant.

Opinion. I would never eat seafood, especially from a seal that was one playing on the ice until some big bad person came and murder them.

 

It's better than a chicken stuffed into a tiny cage, being force fed until its life is ended by a mass slaughter. Sorry but it's painfully stupid to think it's more humane to eat something that was raised in captivity as opposed to wild meat. Our farming and raunching practices are cruel and barbaric when we should be getting meat in the natural way we did for hundreds of thousands of years.

So you think its humane to kill someone with a baseball bat by bashing its head in. LMAO If anything I think the chickens being force fed have it easier than those poor tortured seals.

 

Do you really think they are running around with baseball bats when kiling these seals?  Presently, I would say close to 0% of Canadian sealers are using a long stick to kill the seals.

A hakapik is not the same a baseball bat.  You make it sound like they regularily are hitting the seals multiple times in order to "finish it off", which is another lie you are attempting to glorify as a talking point.

 

Whatever a long stick and a baseball bat is pretty much the same. Nobody is lying.

 



 

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largedarryl on 23 January 2009
Ps3 said:

And how do you explain this picture on the first page?

http://www.seashepherd.org/seals/resources/pictures/seal_clubbing_4.jpg

From your same source

http://www.seashepherd.org/seals-resources/pictures/seal_clubbing_2.jpg

really looks like a bat to me.

 



Ps3 on 23 January 2009
largedarryl said:
Ps3 said:

And how do you explain this picture on the first page?

http://www.seashepherd.org/seals/resources/pictures/seal_clubbing_4.jpg

From your same source

http://www.seashepherd.org/seals-resources/pictures/seal_clubbing_2.jpg

really looks like a bat to me.

 

 

Bats/sticks/logs/planks are all the same shit.



 

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largedarryl on 23 January 2009
Ps3 said:
largedarryl said:
Ps3 said:

And how do you explain this picture on the first page?

http://www.seashepherd.org/seals/resources/pictures/seal_clubbing_4.jpg

From your same source

http://www.seashepherd.org/seals-resources/pictures/seal_clubbing_2.jpg

really looks like a bat to me.

 

 

Bats/sticks/logs/planks are all the same shit.

So using an object that resembles a stick, (although it has a pointy pick on the end) that studies have shown to cause effective instant death is the same as beating with a bat (which probably wouldn't instantly kill unless you were to crush the entire skull).

Its the same as how cows are killed, only they are killed with a bolt gun (which isn't really a gun, more like a jackhammer with a reusable bolt driven into the cows skull)

 



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Final-Fan on 23 January 2009
Final-Fan said:
Just one thing...

You talk about bringing in other predators (instead of man) to control the population. How do you suppose these predators would "control" the seal population? It's not with seal condoms, I can tell you that. They will KILL them.

If you think bashing their brains in is too cruel -- even through they are dead in a few seconds at most -- why does your proposed alternative involve animals that will chase down and viciously tear apart the very same seals, clawing or biting through flesh, ripping their guts out, and maybe even starting to EAT while the seal is still dying.

If that is your more humane alternative, I have to ask: What the fuck are you thinking?

I really love how you responded to every post EXCEPT mine. 

If I am wrong about what your position was, tell me.  If you can defend it, do so.  If you can't, admit it -- to do otherwise is cowardice.  (That's not to say you have to give up your position, but you have to admit you can't support it.)



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MrBubbles on 23 January 2009

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Final-Fan on 23 January 2009
Ps3 said:
pearljammer said:
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How is this even a rebuttal? I don't care to change your opinion. I just care to show others that these people aren't the barabarians that you claim them to be.

You didn't answer my question... As someone mentioned to you earlier. Many cherish the cow and forbid the killing and eating of it. Because you eating it goes against their beliefs, does that make you a murderous, satanic, evil, nasty monster?
Well Cows are eaten everywhere,  how many people can say they've eaten seal. I stick by my opinion that eating a seal is the same as eating shit and piss.
Cows are not eaten everywhere, another lie (or sad, sad ignorance). And how does the amount of people eating something justify it's 'murder'.

By that same logic, we should have stopped eating cow when it first started to become our food, as very little ate it at that time. Those barbarians!!
Well most places eat cow. Where don't people eat cow?
Devout Muslims don't eat beef, vegans don't eat beef, Hindu don't eat beef, people typically in the arctic do not eat beef.

...That's equates to a lot of people. But you've dodged the more important point. Why does it matter how many people do it? Because it is more popular?

Also:
"I just think people are protecting it cause they like the taste of seal meat"

Two things:
1.  I've never had seal meat before, I've never even had moose meat before (which is hugely popular in Newfoundland). Like you, I can't bring myself to eat something that I'm not used to and didn't grow up with.
2.  So what if they like it? You like beef, so you eat it.

Not everyone is muslim and hindu though. It's really cool that they stick to their beliefs and don't eat cow and pork, my hat is off to them for that cause thats what they believe in.
But I just think eating cows it way differrent than eating a seal. Only like 2 places eat seal, I've never met anyone that eats seal, and I've never been to a resturaunt where seal was on the menu.

1. Moose meat is fucked up too.
2. I don't snack on it constantly and I don't cheer on animal killers for it though.

Your argument here is that since it's not a popular world food source, it's disgusting and wrong to eat.  This is OK for an opinion on personal preference (that is, what you would find disgusting and not want to eat) but it's totally wrong to take your personal tastes (or global popularity of a given food) and claim it constitutes some kind of moral imperative. 

'It's not wrong because lots of people do it' 'It is wrong because few people do it' 'I do it so it must be OK'  Your argument disgusts me.  (Therefore, by your logic, you are sick and wrong.) 



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Ps3 on 23 January 2009
Final-Fan said:
Ps3 said:
pearljammer said:
Ps3 said:
pearljammer said:
Ps3 said:
pearljammer said:
How is this even a rebuttal? I don't care to change your opinion. I just care to show others that these people aren't the barabarians that you claim them to be.

You didn't answer my question... As someone mentioned to you earlier. Many cherish the cow and forbid the killing and eating of it. Because you eating it goes against their beliefs, does that make you a murderous, satanic, evil, nasty monster?
Well Cows are eaten everywhere,  how many people can say they've eaten seal. I stick by my opinion that eating a seal is the same as eating shit and piss.
Cows are not eaten everywhere, another lie (or sad, sad ignorance). And how does the amount of people eating something justify it's 'murder'.

By that same logic, we should have stopped eating cow when it first started to become our food, as very little ate it at that time. Those barbarians!!
Well most places eat cow. Where don't people eat cow?
Devout Muslims don't eat beef, vegans don't eat beef, Hindu don't eat beef, people typically in the arctic do not eat beef.

...That's equates to a lot of people. But you've dodged the more important point. Why does it matter how many people do it? Because it is more popular?

Also:
"I just think people are protecting it cause they like the taste of seal meat"

Two things:
1.  I've never had seal meat before, I've never even had moose meat before (which is hugely popular in Newfoundland). Like you, I can't bring myself to eat something that I'm not used to and didn't grow up with.
2.  So what if they like it? You like beef, so you eat it.

Not everyone is muslim and hindu though. It's really cool that they stick to their beliefs and don't eat cow and pork, my hat is off to them for that cause thats what they believe in.
But I just think eating cows it way differrent than eating a seal. Only like 2 places eat seal, I've never met anyone that eats seal, and I've never been to a resturaunt where seal was on the menu.

1. Moose meat is fucked up too.
2. I don't snack on it constantly and I don't cheer on animal killers for it though.

Your argument here is that since it's not a popular world food source, it's disgusting and wrong to eat.  This is OK for an opinion on personal preference (that is, what you would find disgusting and not want to eat) but it's totally wrong to take your personal tastes (or global popularity of a given food) and claim it constitutes some kind of moral imperative. 

'It's not wrong because lots of people do it' 'It is wrong because few people do it' 'I do it so it must be OK'  Your argument disgusts me.  (Therefore, by your logic, you are sick and wrong.) 

LOL! I'm sick and wrong cause I think eating seals is wrong? Well in that case I think its sick and wrong that you think its okay that hunters club seals with sticks. Nobody is forcing you to read my opinion.

 



 

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Ps3 on 23 January 2009
largedarryl said:
Ps3 said:
largedarryl said:
Ps3 said:

And how do you explain this picture on the first page?

http://www.seashepherd.org/seals/resources/pictures/seal_clubbing_4.jpg

From your same source

http://www.seashepherd.org/seals-resources/pictures/seal_clubbing_2.jpg

really looks like a bat to me.

 

 

Bats/sticks/logs/planks are all the same shit.

So using an object that resembles a stick, (although it has a pointy pick on the end) that studies have shown to cause effective instant death is the same as beating with a bat (which probably wouldn't instantly kill unless you were to crush the entire skull).

Its the same as how cows are killed, only they are killed with a bolt gun (which isn't really a gun, more like a jackhammer with a reusable bolt driven into the cows skull)

 

But still being beaten by whatever is still messed up.

 



 

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