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student on 18 January 2009

Yea, the style of nintendo's mainstream games hasn't changed much. They're just expanding their stable to incorporate more games. OVerall, they're doing fine work.



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Scruff7 on 18 January 2009
scottie said:
^ They were also Nintendo's two lowest selling consoles :P

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im_sneaky on 18 January 2009

I am unimpressed. Im still waiting for F-Zero Wii... a new take on an old genre done WELL like Metroid Prime....etc etc. Galazy was great. Brawl is good. MP3 was good. Radiant Dawn was bad for a Fire Emblem game...but still good. It seems like Nintendo is making less quality games... and more Wii Music..



 

 

Phendrana on 18 January 2009
Soleron said:

I'm more concerned about the loss of quality. The fact that the audience wants simple games doesn't mean they want rubbish games - even Nintendo falls into the "shovelware trap".

Super Mario Bros. was a simple game, yes, but it had fantastic level design, catchy music, a well thought out "mythos"* and most importantly a sense of progression and development - the game got harder through the levels until you felt you'd achieved something by beating it.

All of this "casuals don't want goals, they want 'free roaming'/'everyone's a winner' mechanics" like Animal Crossing or Wii Music is rubbish too. Games need to be accessible but rewarding.

Let me give you some examples of this - these games are accessible and rewarding, and sold well amongst core fans and casual players:

Pokémon Red/Blue

New Super Mario Bros.

Super Smash Bros. Brawl

Mario Kart Wii

*That doesn't mean story or dialogue. It means the characters fit with the levels fit with the enemies, so that the result was "predictable" within the framework of the game, i.e. it was easy to see that lava was dangerous and coins were valuable. Nothing was out of place.

 

Well, I happen to find both of those games rewarding in a different sense. Making something that sounds good or having a nice jam session in Wii Music is rewarding. Paying off your house, finding rare fish/bugs/furniture or filling up the museum (amongst many other things) in Animal Crossing is rewarding.

They still have goals, they're just goals you create rather than goals you're told to do. A game doesn't have to directly say "YOU ARE A WINNER" or "GO DO THIS TO WIN" to be rewarding. At least for me, anyways.



Ari_Gold on 18 January 2009

i moved on al ong time ago, but i still bought a wii to play the old core nintendo franchises, and though my wii has been getting dust the last 8 months i really don't mind since i have my 360 and my DS for my gaming needs.



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Grampy on 18 January 2009
Ari_Gold said:
i moved on al ong time ago, but i still bought a wii to play the old core nintendo franchises, and though my wii has been getting dust the last 8 months i really don't mind since i have my 360 and my DS for my gaming needs.

You are 20 years old and male, poster child for the "hardcore" demographic that the PS360 is most aimed at. Research however indicates that males 40+ actually prefer Nintendo so perhaps you are not so much moving on as passing through. Demographically speaking, "hardcore" could be considered just a phase.

 



dougsdad0629 on 18 January 2009
Ari_Gold said:
i moved on al ong time ago, but i still bought a wii to play the old core nintendo franchises, and though my wii has been getting dust the last 8 months i really don't mind since i have my 360 and my DS for my gaming needs.

 

I feel the same way.  The only interest I have in my Wii anymore is that I'm looking forward to finally digging into the Virtual Console for some old school Mario lovin'.



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Strategyking92 on 18 January 2009

actually, if you look at the gamecube and N64 controllers they were quite complicated for their time... and after their waning forunes after the gamecube, nintendo did something drastic that they knew the kiddies would JUST EAT RIGHT UP! motion control!! yay!!! happy!!!
That's not the problem though.. it's the games. they only keep making installments in games they made 20 years ago.
I loved nintendo back in the N64 days (and I played those games well into the ps2 era) but I think they have now sold out. It doesn't take a genius, look at their current library.



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Ari_Gold on 18 January 2009
Grampy said:
Ari_Gold said:
i moved on al ong time ago, but i still bought a wii to play the old core nintendo franchises, and though my wii has been getting dust the last 8 months i really don't mind since i have my 360 and my DS for my gaming needs.

You are 20 years old and male, poster child for the "hardcore" demographic that the PS360 is most aimed at. Research however indicates that males 40+ actually prefer Nintendo so perhaps you are not so much moving on as passing through. Demographically speaking, "hardcore" could be considered just a phase.

 

Actually i'm 23, and i dont appreciate stalkers, and namecalling. Should i take your comments seriously? you appear to be a 63 year old male, and a nintendo fanboy with no reasoning.

 



Ari_Gold on 18 January 2009
dougsdad0629 said:
Ari_Gold said:
i moved on al ong time ago, but i still bought a wii to play the old core nintendo franchises, and though my wii has been getting dust the last 8 months i really don't mind since i have my 360 and my DS for my gaming needs.

 

I feel the same way.  The only interest I have in my Wii anymore is that I'm looking forward to finally digging into the Virtual Console for some old school Mario lovin'.

 

sir, i gotta admit, i got the homebrew into my wii around amonth a go, and i love playing VC games. That is the reason my wii still gets some playtime. VC RULES.