blaydcor said:
Khuutra said:
Chun Li doesn't have oversized breasts, she has thighs the size of the anchor on a battleship so she can kick people in the face. She's radically overmuscled in the exact same way Ryu is, just in keeping with her fighting style.
If you're going to make the argument that it's somehow worse for women than it is for men as a predominant trend, you're goign to need to cite a few examples, and pray to God I can't come up with equivalent male examples in the same space, or prove that the most forefront female characters have abandoned their "sex symbol" designation.
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My argument: Women in gaming are, quite often, radically sex-charged excuses for developers to throw in well-proportioned eye-candy. This trend has many notable exceptions, but is still rampantly apparent, lending itself to gaming's image as the realm of nerds, losers, and geeks.
You: NOT TRUE NOT TRUE CITE EXAMPLES, PRESENT SOPHISTIC COUNTERARGUMENT!!
Going for the jugular of what is, in my eyes, such an inarguable thesis hardly seems like the most effective way to argue your disagreement. This is not a scholarly article; I don't need to cite a half-dozen articles to make a general, widely observed point. (Check out the tagline under the article title.). Why are you arguing against what I'm saying? I'm not attacking gaming, women in gaming, or you. I'm lamenting the how inescapably juvenile so many aspects of gaming are, in particular the design and implementation of female gaming. The author of the article was (albeit inarticulately) too.
Oh, and as far as your closing ultimatum goes...Leisure Suit Larry; Playboy the Mansion, BMX XXX.....how many games are there where you're a girl going around getting guys to strip, flash their penises, and bless you with sexual favours? Um....good luck with your counter example.
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Ah, do forgive me, I tend to get caught up in arguments, and I transferred my argument against the article's writer to my argument against you.
You make a fair point that can be applied to both of the sexes but isn't generally noticed for male characters as much because the feminine perspective is rarely considered outside of female gaming circles. However, I will argue that the article-writer's point is not your point; he primarily cites characters who are not examples of this, and complains more loudly of women who are stoic and wise-cracking, and of "forced sexual equality" more than tits and ass. You can't make an argument for forced sexual equality and sexual exploitation in the same breath, and his examples supported his umbrage with the former, not the latter.
Yes, sexual exploitation is still a problem. No, it isn't limited to women. Yes, I can come up with counter-examples, but I wouldn't know how to read their names because a lot of them are Yaoi Dating Sims in Japanese and marketed primarily to girls.
Your argument's fine, though I still think it's narrow. His isn't.
@makingmusic: Let's give this a read here.
@kabhold: Not by that paragraph.
