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The_vagabond7 said:
rocketpig said:
The_vagabond7 said:
Personally I don't necessarily think Fallout 3 "deserves" it either, but out of that list I think I enjoyed playing that one the most. But there is a whole slew of games I would pick for MY Game of the Year over those listed, and also ones I think deserve it more than those listed. Like Valkyria Chronicles. That damn thing needs a trophy now.

 

Okay, ditto. I may have enjoyed L4D more but I didn't get enough time with it and frankly, the game is a little limited to nominate it for GotY in my book. I also might pick Fallout if we're going for "game I enjoyed most", though Gears 2 would be way up there, too.

This is why these lists are bullshit. I can watch Star Wars 500 times (and I have) but I would never call it a "better" film than 2001, A Clockwork Orange, or Full Metal Jacket.

There are things you enjoy and things you appreciate. They don't have to be one in the same.

Yeah, that's one of the many problems with the young fledgeling industry and it's critics. "Game Of The Year" doesn't actually have any meaning, there is no particular criteria for it's being chosen. One person may vote their game of the year based on it being an incredible technical achievement, one may vote for it because they think it advanced videogames the most as an artform, one may vote on it based on which it had the most fun playing, another may vote on one just to spite fanboys, or because it had poodles and he votes for anything with poodles. But there isn't any particular criteria for what determines what "game of the year" means other than this particular group happened to put one on their list of games more than another. Meh. But who doesn't love the juicy catfights that ensue!

The problem with this industry is that it's still perceived as a child's toy and that its growth has come lockstep with money from the creators. There's no cultural respect or reverence given to Galaga. There are few classes taught on the important of The Legend of Zelda and its impact on society. Shit, there are barely even classes on videogames and their impact on pop culture as a whole.

Once games get that kind of respect (and they will), we'll see real critics come into focus and start analyzing what was good, what was shit, and what was derivative.

Separate the money from the creators and the authors, put historical analysis in the hands of academia, and this medium might get a little respect.

As a side note, I fucking hate academics. But I have high hopes that by the time I'm forty, I'll be able to read a real book about how the NES changed the way we view the world.




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rocketpig said:

Separate the money from the creators and the authors

To the best of my knowledge this has not happened in any iteration of popular media in the history of the world. Not ever.



Khuutra said:
rocketpig said:

Separate the money from the creators and the authors

To the best of my knowledge this has not happened in any iteration of popular media in the history of the world. Not ever.

It never happens entirely. But there are journalistic boundaries in other media. There is no "don't publish before "X" date unless you give a 9/10 rule" in movies. There is no "don't publish this book review if you don't like it" rule with the New York Times.

The entertainment industry, by and large, has accepted the media. Do they try to bribe them with free shit, nice places to screen a movie, and luxurious accomodations to influence the reviewers?  Of course.

The other industries fight this by giving things to reviewers who might like it better or not releasing the book/movie preview at all. There's ALWAYS money. The difference is that there are no standing rules to say or do not say what you think if you are given the piece of entertainment. You get it, you say it.

Games industry, that's not the case.




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Ohhhh. I didn't realize you were talking about the "journalism" media.

Yeah moneychanging in video games journalism borders on the criminal, no questions asked.

i think its going to be mgs4 because recently they made a poll asking something about the best game of 08 or something like that i dont remember well and mgs4 won.



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They'll fool as all and vote Wario Land

 

it obviously deserves it more than any of them



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

dunno, but i am getting LBP!



MGS4



 

 

 

Since IGN rated MGS4 a 10/10 I think it will be MGS4.



rocketpig said:
The_vagabond7 said:
rocketpig said:
The_vagabond7 said:
Personally I don't necessarily think Fallout 3 "deserves" it either, but out of that list I think I enjoyed playing that one the most. But there is a whole slew of games I would pick for MY Game of the Year over those listed, and also ones I think deserve it more than those listed. Like Valkyria Chronicles. That damn thing needs a trophy now.

 

Okay, ditto. I may have enjoyed L4D more but I didn't get enough time with it and frankly, the game is a little limited to nominate it for GotY in my book. I also might pick Fallout if we're going for "game I enjoyed most", though Gears 2 would be way up there, too.

This is why these lists are bullshit. I can watch Star Wars 500 times (and I have) but I would never call it a "better" film than 2001, A Clockwork Orange, or Full Metal Jacket.

There are things you enjoy and things you appreciate. They don't have to be one in the same.

Yeah, that's one of the many problems with the young fledgeling industry and it's critics. "Game Of The Year" doesn't actually have any meaning, there is no particular criteria for it's being chosen. One person may vote their game of the year based on it being an incredible technical achievement, one may vote for it because they think it advanced videogames the most as an artform, one may vote on it based on which it had the most fun playing, another may vote on one just to spite fanboys, or because it had poodles and he votes for anything with poodles. But there isn't any particular criteria for what determines what "game of the year" means other than this particular group happened to put one on their list of games more than another. Meh. But who doesn't love the juicy catfights that ensue!

The problem with this industry is that it's still perceived as a child's toy and that its growth has come lockstep with money from the creators. There's no cultural respect or reverence given to Galaga. There are few classes taught on the important of The Legend of Zelda and its impact on society. Shit, there are barely even classes on videogames and their impact on pop culture as a whole.

Once games get that kind of respect (and they will), we'll see real critics come into focus and start analyzing what was good, what was shit, and what was derivative.

Separate the money from the creators and the authors, put historical analysis in the hands of academia, and this medium might get a little respect.

As a side note, I fucking hate academics. But I have high hopes that by the time I'm forty, I'll be able to read a real book about how the NES changed the way we view the world.

 

Yeah, I pretty much agree with all of that. I'm just waiting for Rhubang to finish his film criticism classes and start his half drunk half intellectual all naked Videogame culture discussion site. Then we will get the recognition we deserve...



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