@FilaNot at all.  I recognise the validity of other measures of "AAA" for certain purposes.  But in broad terms there can be no more easily acceptable definition than the aggregate opinion of the wider gaming press as too what constitutes the best of the best.

I personally would consider Fable 2 a AAA game for a variety of reasons, but I cannot reasonably argue that the wider gaming press agrees, much as they all believe it is a highly competant game. 

I'm not saying it is a 60% either.  The rating systems are flawed in the conversion of that factor.  

Giving a game 3/5 means it is still a good game and by no means a bad one.  And yet if you throw it to be a 60% then it looks like a shitty game.  

I disagree, I think it's very flawed to just look at metacritic and say this game is AAA and that game is not AAA, as you said Fable II is a AAA game, I haven't played it yet but heard good things about it, likewise Uncharted and Dead Space are also AAA games, some will even argue that ToV is a AAA game (haven't played that one yet).

Just looking at aggregate score and deciding whether a game is AAA or not is a flawed and broken logic. Really who has heard of most of those sites and reviewers that are used to aggregate the score?

I didn't say it was perfect.  You implied that I have an obsession with them and view them as an all-encompassing measure of quality.  This is a far more flawed opinion than mine.

I simply believe that for general comparison reasons it is the best we have got.

I disagree, 3/5 and 60% have the same weight and would imply that the game is shitty.

4 out of 5?

80%

8 out of 10?

Its all the same baby, not a bad score

Are you really wanting to make a statement as bold as it's not AAA based on one review? Didn't your beloved Fable 2 get a 7.5? Not to mention the metacritic is still 100. And don't give the excuse of it being rated 5/5 only because it was a PS mag either because calculate just where your beloved Fable 2 would be sitting metacritic wise without the xbox mags.

I made no such statement.  I said that at the very least the title is a solid shooter, but may not end up AAA.  If you look closely, you'll find Fable 2 is already mentioned in this thread

As for PS mags, whether you like it or not, the last year or two they have been FAR more generous than Xbox mags, which have been particularly harsh in recent times.

ToV isn't even AA, this coming from a Tales fan >.

More generous? Really? Well in a year with MGS4 and LBP why would they not get 10's? A hell of a lot of other publications gave them tens. So you can hardly point those games out as being too genrous. Furthermore, it's hard to point out high r2 reviews of 9's when many other publications gave it simular scores and many publications gave it scores equal with Gears 2. Also, if you look at metacritic, a ps mag gave Motorstorm it's very lowest review that last I checked. Gave it a 60 when it was averaging 80's. The PS had a huge year and according to many publishers had the highest rated exclusives of the year. So are you certain it was them being generous? Or was it because of tons of quality titles. For every "generous" mgs4, lbp, r2, valkryia chronicles review, you had an equal "generous" xbox mag review of games such as Fable 2, Gears 2, L4D, etc.