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Soleron said:
They've realised the problem and have pulled the beta completely. The TechNet page is taken down. Surely a corporation of that size would know how to deal with public interest on that scale? Fail.

That is amazing.



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The initial response from reviewers have been positive on 7, so....



"...You can't kill ideas with a sword, and you can't sink belief structures with a broadside. You defeat them by making them change..."

- From By Schism Rent Asunder

The lack of M$ rallying companies to upgrade their drivers to 64 bit for Vista 64/XP64 has being the biggest problem for upgraders imo. Having got around those i do prefer vista to xp, the sidebar alone is worth it. I'm looking forward to the improvements on media centre the most in windows 7, the rest can stay the same, i dont need an OS throwing pointless 3D menus at me.



gavind5uk said:
The lack of M$ rallying companies to upgrade their drivers to 64 bit for Vista 64/XP64 has being the biggest problem for upgraders imo. Having got around those i do prefer vista to xp, the sidebar alone is worth it. I'm looking forward to the improvements on media centre the most in windows 7, the rest can stay the same, i dont need an OS throwing pointless 3D menus at me.

Starting with Vista (i.e. 2 years ago) MS refused to sign drivers unless they pass WHQL for both x32 and x64.  So unless you're in the habit of using custom hardware with no signed drivers, getting drivers for x64 really isn't much of an issue anymore.  XP64 was another story entirely because it was never sold to mainsteam consumers - take a look at Dell.com or other major sites, half their PCs ship with Vista x64 these days by default - home pcs, not just business targeted machines.

 



the beta is still going on and keys are available so try if you can get a key.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/beta-download.aspx



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Soleron said:
Zkuq said:
ssj12 said:
Soleron said:

They announced the public Windows 7 Beta wuld be up for download today with "only" 2.5 million download slots in total. But they didn't specify a time. The sheer amount of people wanting to get in has completely destroyed microsoft.com, and because people don't know they time they continually refresh which makes the problem about 10x worse.

 

ya. a downlaod limit on the site... what stops torrents?

My thought exactly. Practically they're encouraging the use of torrents and such. What good is an open yet limited beta if you can get it despite the limitation without any drawbacks? I'm not sure but I suppose the beta doesn't even have online activation or anything like that, unlike the retail versions. Even if it does, it gets cracked pretty fast.

Yes; actually the build leaked a week before today. The reason to get it officially is that a) it won't suddenly break due to updates and b) they gave Vista beta users a free copy of Vista Ultimate at the end...

 

really?, on the windows 7 site, they state that they wont give users windows 7 for free.

 



C8 said:
gavind5uk said:
The lack of M$ rallying companies to upgrade their drivers to 64 bit for Vista 64/XP64 has being the biggest problem for upgraders imo. Having got around those i do prefer vista to xp, the sidebar alone is worth it. I'm looking forward to the improvements on media centre the most in windows 7, the rest can stay the same, i dont need an OS throwing pointless 3D menus at me.

Starting with Vista (i.e. 2 years ago) MS refused to sign drivers unless they pass WHQL for both x32 and x64.  So unless you're in the habit of using custom hardware with no signed drivers, getting drivers for x64 really isn't much of an issue anymore.  XP64 was another story entirely because it was never sold to mainsteam consumers - take a look at Dell.com or other major sites, half their PCs ship with Vista x64 these days by default - home pcs, not just business targeted machines.

 

 

Ive come across quite alot of hardware drivers and software lacking 64bit compatibility, i think it os more prevalent than you may believe, even the likes of companies like nvidia have not upgraded some of their projects.



People will still be using XP when this thing comes out. Just like what happened with Vista.



gavind5uk said:
C8 said:
gavind5uk said:
The lack of M$ rallying companies to upgrade their drivers to 64 bit for Vista 64/XP64 has being the biggest problem for upgraders imo. Having got around those i do prefer vista to xp, the sidebar alone is worth it. I'm looking forward to the improvements on media centre the most in windows 7, the rest can stay the same, i dont need an OS throwing pointless 3D menus at me.

Starting with Vista (i.e. 2 years ago) MS refused to sign drivers unless they pass WHQL for both x32 and x64.  So unless you're in the habit of using custom hardware with no signed drivers, getting drivers for x64 really isn't much of an issue anymore.  XP64 was another story entirely because it was never sold to mainsteam consumers - take a look at Dell.com or other major sites, half their PCs ship with Vista x64 these days by default - home pcs, not just business targeted machines.

 

 

Ive come across quite alot of hardware drivers and software lacking 64bit compatibility, i think it os more prevalent than you may believe, even the likes of companies like nvidia have not upgraded some of their projects.

 

Drivers only.  Microsoft does not sign Windows applications.  Do you know of an nVidia product that has a signed vista (MS WHQL) 32-bit driver but no 64-bit driver?  For that matter, any vendor with a signed 32-bit Vista driver (older pre-vista drivers ... nothing I can say there) but no 64-bit driver?  Unsigned drivers, also nothing you can do there - but major vendors produce signed drivers.



Microsoft making a mistake....at least one thing in the world is not changing.