@ redspear

I was comparing technology, not the quality of the used codec or production values. Blu-Ray is simply specced better than HD DVD was, the technology allows for higher bitrates using the same software.

Similarly the PS3 is more powerful than the 360 regarding games, you cannot judge the PS3 on a bad 360 port. Similarly you couldn't judge the Amiga on bad Atari ST ports in the distant past.

MikeB said: @ redspear I was comparing technology, not the quality of the used codec or production values. Blu-Ray is simply specced better than HD DVD was, the technology allows for higher bitrates using the same software. Similarly the PS3 is more powerful than the 360 regarding games, you cannot judge the PS3 on a bad 360 port. Similarly you couldn't judge the Amiga on bad Atari ST ports in the distant past.

 

 First off there is no proof other than PR spin that the PS3 is more powerful than the 360. Certainly no game has shown it thus far. If it is it is only marginially so..

Secondly there was no advantage for BR over HD-DVD when it came to Hi Def video. the limitations of both far exceeded the requirements for properly compressed HD video.

The only advantage the extra space of BR enabled was capturing RAW video and that is supersceded by SSD(P2, or Reds CD RAID). BR is simply not fast enough to capture unprocessed video with no compression at over 1080P(3K 4K or 5K).

 

I agree I loved the Amiga it's multimedia uses far exceeded any computer at that time and for many years later. However to the gaming publicit was swamped by the NES and SMS. Its gaming capabilities were higher than anything else. Though since I own a PS3 and a Wii and have played the 360. I can't point to a single game that is technically superior on the PS3. However my PC trumps both systems easily.

 

@Million

 

I know the White House comment was unneccesary. I am also drunk but even still I Know a ton about media bit rates standards for ATSC/QAM/PAL/NTSC/SECAM that I can do this stuff in  my sleep. I was likening his posts to a bad PR release. BR is fine it does the job. But no movie requires 54 Mbits a sec unless the encoders are simply lazy and over do the rate for CBR with MPEG 2 and wish to deal with artifacts because they used TMPEG(BTW that is actually a decent program but if you are releasing a movie on DVD or BR you are going to be doing more advanced stuff).

 

@ redspear

It's significantly more powerful, for example 360 launch games already used up 85%-100% of available CPU cycles. Killzone 2 currently does not top 60% of SPE usage. In addition there's a harddrive for harddrive caching and Blu-Ray drive for steady streaming and lots of storage. It's quite obvious, to quote the people behind the Ninja Gaiden series:

"For any developer that's been working on all of the platforms that are available today,I think they would agree that the PlayStation 3 is the most powerful system out there""

I added a bit more to the original post:

Seems to me many PS3 users who bought the console mainly for gaming purposes, do already take usage of the Blu-Ray movie playback functionality (just like many who bought a PS3 mainly for multi-media purposes buy games as well).

Judging from these figures Blu-Ray is outperforming DVD and this is great as DVD was the fastest adopted format ever. Blu-Ray does not need to beat DVD taking equal timeframes this early to be a huge success, but it's IMO great that it does.

So far the high definition market isn't slowing down, judging from holiday sales. Maybe people will more likely wait with big purchases like a new car (maybe buy a second hand one) or house, rather than cut costs on relatively cheap devices which provide people entertainment through a weaker economy.

@ MikeB

This is what i was saying, for a while PS3 was by far the cheapest blueray player on the market in the UK, especially as it was known to be getting the 2.0 profile upgrade so everyone appreciated that it was future proofed as well, so the people I know that are early adopters as film buffs bought the ps3 instead of a stand alone player.

Even as someone who bought the ps3 predominantly for gaming, i already have a decent BD film collection - so making sweeping assumptions that ps3 owners dont buy films i agree doesnt hold water, especially when you consider that ps3 was one of the first machines available to have the functionality, no other previous console has been in that position so its a nonsense for people to grand pronouncements when there is no point of reference.