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celine said:
mike_intellivision said:

5. What if Wii did not have motion controls and was another regular system made by Nintendo?
No one really cares about another third-place Nintendo console, especially one with limited graphics. The GC2 halts production in early 2009 and Nintendo focuses on DS and software -- becoming a third-party like its chief rival from the classic days Sega had to do a few years before. Zelda HD and Mario 256 HD are expected to be a holiday hit in 2010.

I call bullshit on the bolded part

 

 

Why BS called on this?

That is just extrapolating from what people said Nintendo ought to do.

But maybe the time was off -- 2011?

 

Mike from Morgantown

 

 



      


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disolitude said:
@ mike_intellivision

Great opinions about those 5 what ifs. Those would be my guesses as well. You know your gaming history alright. More-so than me as I have no idea how your Atari What if would reflect on gaming in 1984. Could have worked for Atari, but considering the best gaming started coming from Japan with exlcusive nintendo agreements, Atari may have been shafted again.

What if Atari went ahead and distributed nintendo entertainment system in the US like nitnendo asked them to?

The Atari Home Entertainment System took America by storm in 1985.

Replicating the model used a decade before, Atari went back to Sears' Sporting Goods departments with its latest contraption -- a dark box resembling a toaster that played game.s 

Once it proved the concept, it unleashed its design studios to fully support the AHES -- supplementing the Nintendo offerings with unique games such as Ballblazer and Xevious (games originally planned for the now scrapped Atari 7800) as well as the only home versions of popular computer games like Mean 18 Golf. It also put all of its arcade hits on the AHES -- such as RBI Baseball as well as games from its ST computer series such as Plutos.

The partnership benefitted both companies initally. Atari remained the name for video games in the US while elsewhere the Nintendo FC and Nintendo NES were king. And other than token opposition from Sega and NEC, the playing field belonged to these giants.

It reached a point though that the relationship began to fray about 1990. Atari mangement wanted more control over the SuperNES/Super Atari. Eventually, its management was ousted in a proxy fight and Atari became the North American subsidiary of Nintendo. It has remained that to this day, though mostly as a second-party software producer as Nintendo has released its consoles in the US under its own name since 1992.

 

Mike from Morgantown

 

 



      


I am Mario.


I like to jump around, and would lead a fairly serene and aimless existence if it weren't for my friends always getting into trouble. I love to help out, even when it puts me at risk. I seem to make friends with people who just can't stay out of trouble.

Wii Friend Code: 1624 6601 1126 1492

NNID: Mike_INTV

mike_intellivision said:
celine said:
mike_intellivision said:

5. What if Wii did not have motion controls and was another regular system made by Nintendo?
No one really cares about another third-place Nintendo console, especially one with limited graphics. The GC2 halts production in early 2009 and Nintendo focuses on DS and software -- becoming a third-party like its chief rival from the classic days Sega had to do a few years before. Zelda HD and Mario 256 HD are expected to be a holiday hit in 2010.

I call bullshit on the bolded part

 

 

Why BS called on this?

That is just extrapolating from what people said Nintendo ought to do.

But maybe the time was off -- 2011?

 

Mike from Morgantown

 

 

Who care about people ?

Not many people understand/know how Nintendo run.

hint:

Although Nintendo could be associate more with companies like old Atari, old Sega etc. than companies like MS or Sony  none of the companies I've cited is/was like Nintendo.

No wonder Nintendo is still here



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mike_intellivision said:
disolitude said:
@ mike_intellivision

Great opinions about those 5 what ifs. Those would be my guesses as well. You know your gaming history alright. More-so than me as I have no idea how your Atari What if would reflect on gaming in 1984. Could have worked for Atari, but considering the best gaming started coming from Japan with exlcusive nintendo agreements, Atari may have been shafted again.

What if Atari went ahead and distributed nintendo entertainment system in the US like nitnendo asked them to?

The Atari Home Entertainment System took America by storm in 1985.

Replicating the model used a decade before, Atari went back to Sears' Sporting Goods departments with its latest contraption -- a dark box resembling a toaster that played game.s 

Once it proved the concept, it unleashed its design studios to fully support the AHES -- supplementing the Nintendo offerings with unique games such as Ballblazer and Xevious (games originally planned for the now scrapped Atari 7800) as well as the only home versions of popular computer games like Mean 18 Golf. It also put all of its arcade hits on the AHES -- such as RBI Baseball as well as games from its ST computer series such as Plutos.

The partnership benefitted both companies initally. Atari remained the name for video games in the US while elsewhere the Nintendo FC and Nintendo NES were king. And other than token opposition from Sega and NEC, the playing field belonged to these giants.

It reached a point though that the relationship began to fray about 1990. Atari mangement wanted more control over the SuperNES/Super Atari. Eventually, its management was ousted in a proxy fight and Atari became the North American subsidiary of Nintendo. It has remained that to this day, though mostly as a second-party software producer as Nintendo has released its consoles in the US under its own name since 1992.

 

Mike from Morgantown

 

 

 

Oh wow. well concieved.

This actually sounds like it could have happened. Then Sega would demolish Super Atari in north america with the hedgehog and would have captured the majority of the 16 bit makert?



mike_intellivision said:
disolitude said:
@ mike_intellivision

What if Atari went ahead and distributed nintendo entertainment system in the US like nitnendo asked them to?

The Atari Home Entertainment System took America by storm in 1985.

Replicating the model used a decade before, Atari went back to Sears' Sporting Goods departments with its latest contraption -- a dark box resembling a toaster that played game.s 

Once it proved the concept, it unleashed its design studios to fully support the AHES -- supplementing the Nintendo offerings with unique games such as Ballblazer and Xevious (games originally planned for the now scrapped Atari 7800) as well as the only home versions of popular computer games like Mean 18 Golf. It also put all of its arcade hits on the AHES -- such as RBI Baseball as well as games from its ST computer series such as Plutos.

The partnership benefitted both companies initally. Atari remained the name for video games in the US while elsewhere the Nintendo FC and Nintendo NES were king. And other than token opposition from Sega and NEC, the playing field belonged to these giants.

It reached a point though that the relationship began to fray about 1990. Atari mangement wanted more control over the SuperNES/Super Atari. Eventually, its management was ousted in a proxy fight and Atari became the North American subsidiary of Nintendo. It has remained that to this day, though mostly as a second-party software producer as Nintendo has released its consoles in the US under its own name since 1992.

 

Mike from Morgantown

I disgree.

It is more likely that NES ( or how Atari would rebrand it ) would fail. Atari at that time didn't believe in console gaming anymore so I don't think they had the will, motivation or skill to recreate the console gaming market in US thus giving at the future of gaming a more "home-computer"-like connotation.

 



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