@ Ronster316

Sony designed a good sound chip for the Snes. There was a joint project for a Snes-CD addon, but Nintendo back stabbed Sony on this by cancelling the deal at the very last minute. Eventually Sony decided to continue its R&D without Nintendo and the Sony Playstation materialized.

It's really Sony own technology being used in the original Playstation. I don't understand the personal attacks outed against Ken with regard to this.

Ronster316 said: WarmachineX said: Congrats on finding sony support from a playstation website.   Talk about patting yourself on the back and blowing your own trumpet huh. Typical sony.

Didn't one of these Sony support sites give Haze a 10/10?

Ronster316 said: Pristine20 said: Ronster316 said: Pristine20 said: Ronster316 said: Electro General said: MikeB said: EvilAvatar said: People dont like PS3 because it is very expansive, sony called X360 "Xbox 1,5" I agree, the PS3 is very expansive. Lots of cheap industry standard expansions like 320 GB harddrives for the same price you buy a 120 GB 360 harddrive, PlayTV, lots of firmware updates and new service being introduced. Not to mention the core hardware features are better, like my Nintendo DS has Wi-Fi, but on the 360 you pay something like 60 Euros for this and the console doesn't even come with online play out of the box... Do you have an exact quote with regard to your XBox 1.5 comment? Who said this? I can imagine Sony stating the PS3 is far more powerful than the 360, but that's something else.   Ken Kutaragi - "the Xbox 360 is more of an Xbox 1.5 than a next generation console." And look what happened to him. Good old Ken Kutaragi, First he was a thief in the early days of the first playstation during the Famicom-playstation project and then he became a liar when he said that the 360 was "xbox 1.5" .............no wonder i hate that rat.   It's funny how you guys hate him for things he "said". I don't think I've ever heard true PR in my life which is why I don't listen to PR period. If you put the PR aside, you'd realize that Ken is a man who had a vision, worked his way up to get that vision and ended up expanding the gaming industry beyond the "kiddie" stereotype to people who could spend their own money to play games. He made 2 hugely successful consoles, however, one failure regardless of past success gets you crucified. Such is the human way. This is why Ken was fired...he finally failed. He's won lifetime achievement awards for what he's done, there's a reason for that.      The most "unworthy" winner of a lifetime achievement award in the history of mankind, he's a thief. Bottom line______________________ He never stole anything. The story I'm familiar with is that Kutaragi (not sony) wanted to work with nintendo to introduce a disc system into the snes but got the shaft. Nintendo decided to go with phillips or something because they didn't want to introduce sony to the gaming industry. Sony finally got in the industry because Kutaragi was close to sony's CEO then and he convinced him to fund the PS project. Thus a system I finally thought worth buying was created. If you think he copied nintendo or someone else for the prototype or something, it wasn't beyond the legal realm. Many said M$ copied apple in designing vista but using existing tech to create a new one is never a crime. If it was copyright infringement (which is criminal), Kutaragi/sony would have been sued. He deserved the award for changing the face of the gaming industry period. You seem heavily entrenched in your beliefs anyway so I get the feeling I'm barking up a tree.     Ken was inspired to get in to gaming when he saw his daughter playing a mario game, he then works alongside nintendo to gain as much hardware and software knowledge as he possibly can and more than likely get inside info on other developers who worked for nintendo on a 3rd party basis, then the Famicom-playstation project is called off and Ken "thief" Kutagari goes running like a scalded dog to sony with all the development, hardware and software knowledge that he had stolen, thats how i see it and i'm not the only one.

Wow, so learning from others is now a crime lol. Note that nintendo was the one who called off the project. Sony wasn't interested in gaming, Ken was and he needed some backing that why he went to nintendo even behind his bosses backs. It was his closeness to the then sony CEO that spared him the axe and even got his "learned ideas" into motion.

He was even the one who told his daughters story, thus, admitting that nintendo inspired him and thats now a bad thing. What has the world turned to?

 

MikeB said: @ Ronster316 Sony designed a good sound chip for the Snes. There was a joint project for a Snes-CD addon, but Nintendo back stabbed Sony on this by cancelling the deal at the very last minute. Eventually Sony decided to continue its R&D without Nintendo and the Sony Playstation materialized. It's really Sony own technology being used in the original Playstation. I don't understand the personal attacks outed against Ken with regard to this.

Back stabbed them? What are you talking about? Nintendo saved a crap load of money when they realized CD add ons sucked (i.e Sega CD, Nintendo DD) They canceled the deal but they didn't back stab them.

MikeB said: @ Ronster316 Sony designed a good sound chip for the Snes. There was a joint project for a Snes-CD addon, but Nintendo back stabbed Sony on this by cancelling the deal at the very last minute. Eventually Sony decided to continue its R&D without Nintendo and the Sony Playstation materialized. It's really Sony own technology being used in the original Playstation. I don't understand the personal attacks outed against Ken with regard to this.

 

The funny thing is that if it wasn't sony's technology or they didn't pay whoever they got it from, they'd obviously have been sued. Thats why the personal attacks against Ken make no sense to me.

Batman...WTF? said: Ronster316 said: WarmachineX said: Congrats on finding sony support from a playstation website.   Talk about patting yourself on the back and blowing your own trumpet huh. Typical sony. Didn't one of these Sony support sites give Haze a 10/10?

Only a harmless and funny satire website (who knows, maybe run by a secret 360 user).

I really don't understand all the fuss.

Gametrailers gave MGS4 a hard review, mostly on the story side. Its' PS3 fans were barking all sorts of menaces (massive defection, trolling, etc.). Now PS3 fans consider Gametrailers to be fair ?

The irony...

Propaganda is essentially based on synecdoches, and this, what MikeB wrote, works exactly like that : an element (the very ephemere opinion of a journalist) taking place of a whole turnover...


If PS3 was actually superior in either graphics, sales, exclusives, market power, BELIEVE ME, the whole web would be buzzing, claiming and transmitting some fact instead of some opinion.

Conjectures : fanboy wars are made of these.

MikeB said: Batman...WTF? said: Ronster316 said: WarmachineX said: Congrats on finding sony support from a playstation website.   Talk about patting yourself on the back and blowing your own trumpet huh. Typical sony. Didn't one of these Sony support sites give Haze a 10/10? Only a harmless and funny satire website (who knows, maybe run by a secret 360 user). I really don't understand all the fuss.

SDF is a satire site? Wow, my entire knowledge of the internet is gone.

Gh0st4lifE said: Gametrailers gave MGS4 a hard review, mostly on the story side. Its' PS3 fans were barking all sorts of menaces (massive defection, trolling, etc.). Now PS3 fans consider Gametrailers to be fair ? The irony... Propaganda is essentially based on synecdoches, and this, what MikeB wrote, works exactly like that : an element (the very ephemere opinion of a journalist) taking place of a whole turnover... If PS3 was actually superior in either graphics, sales, exclusives, market power, BELIEVE ME, the whole web would be buzzing, claiming and transmitting some fact instead of some opinion. Conjectures : fanboy wars are made of these.

I think the problem with your argument is that you use the term "ps3 fans" like its only one person's opinion not a whole bunch of people.

 

@ Pristine20

There's nothing wrong with gaining inspiration.

For example Gears of War's hailed cover system was inspired by other games:

"Bleszinski said the seeds of Gears of War were sown by three titles. The first was Capcom's Resident Evil 4, which made an indelible impression on Bleszinski even before its January 2005 release. "I really liked the pacing and the over-the-shoulder view," said the designer.

The second game was Namco's 2004 shooter kill.switch. Though it had much less success critically or financially than Resident Evil 4, Bleszinski felt "it had the best cover system at that time." He felt that incorporating a similar cover system would really change the pace of Gears and set it apart from other shooters.

Another inspiration was the classic arcade game Bionic Commando. In it, players must shoot a grappling hook to ascend from platform to platform vertically. Bleszinski thinks Gears has the same mechanic--jumping from cover point to cover point to advance--on a horizontal axis."

Inspiration from Lord of the Rings:

"We wanted the Locust to be intelligent savages; they're like the Uruk-hai in LOTR, only with guns. The Uruk-hai would organise themselves, line up and then storm in - even though they look like horrible monsters. That's what the Locust essentially are"