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Hephaestos on 03 January 2009

GT5 is already out.... the definitive version just has a P in the name too...



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Musouka on 03 January 2009

They certainly have found the time to design the dashboard graphics in Nissan GT-R



No foreign sky protected me,
No stranger's wing shielded my face.
I stand as witness to the common lot,
survivor of that time, that place.

- From 'Requiem' by Anna Akhmatova

numonex on 03 January 2009

GT 5 could be rushed out for Xmas 2009. Sony and Polyphony must be panicking at the moment. GT 5 Prologue will have only been out for around 18 months if GT 5 is rushed out the door by Xmas 2009.

Sony is in a Catch-22 situation for the foreseeable future in regards to PS3. The longer the delay in price cut of PS3, the lower the sales numbers of PS3. But if Sony cuts price on PS3 to boost sales of PS3, they will get less revenue and be making bigger losses. XBox 360 and Wii are heavily outselling PS3 in console sales and game sales. The longer Sony delays PS3 price cut and launch of GT 5 the wider the gap between PS3 and their competition will become over the course of 2009 and beyond.



RPG on 03 January 2009

What makes people think PD are the ones to blame here? For all we know the game is near completion and it is Sony who are holding the game back until a PS3 price cut. Sony want to make sure this game has as big a impact as possible, that will never happen at £300.



 

Kasz216 on 03 January 2009
RPG said:
What makes people think PD are the ones to blame here? For all we know the game is near completion and it is Sony who are holding the game back until a PS3 price cut. Sony want to make sure this game has as big a impact as possible, that will never happen at £300.

1) The game already has had massive delays

2) They are perfectionists.

3) It's been stated it takes one graphics artist 6 months to make 1 car

4) They were having trouble getting rights for damage.

 

 



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Hephaestos on 03 January 2009
Kasz216 said:
RPG said:
What makes people think PD are the ones to blame here? For all we know the game is near completion and it is Sony who are holding the game back until a PS3 price cut. Sony want to make sure this game has as big a impact as possible, that will never happen at £300.

1) The game already has had massive delays

2) They are perfectionists.

3) It's been stated it takes one graphics artist 6 months to make 1 car

4) They were having trouble getting rights for damage.

 

 

6 months for one car.... with the kind of budget they have, one man could probably make a real car in that time starting from scratch...

 



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Kasz216 on 03 January 2009
Hephaestos said:
Kasz216 said:
RPG said:
What makes people think PD are the ones to blame here? For all we know the game is near completion and it is Sony who are holding the game back until a PS3 price cut. Sony want to make sure this game has as big a impact as possible, that will never happen at £300.

1) The game already has had massive delays

2) They are perfectionists.

3) It's been stated it takes one graphics artist 6 months to make 1 car

4) They were having trouble getting rights for damage.

 

 

6 months for one car.... with the kind of budget they have, one man could probably make a real car in that time starting from scratch...

 

A huge one from what i can tell.  Considering the last game had... what 700 cars?  That's a lot of manhours.

http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2007/12/18/kazunori-yamauchi-dishes-more-gran-turismo-5-details

Refrence to the 6 months thing by the way.

"In GT and GT2, both for PS1, a designer spent a day to model a car. In GT3 and GT4, for PS2, the same worker spent a month modeling the same car due to the increased amount of polygons. In GT5 for PS3, they require six months to do the same job,"



Bboid on 03 January 2009
kowenicki said:
Bboid said:
ssj12 said:
The_God_of_War said:
They really have to get the game out and stop fecking around with Prologue's. This could really help the PS3's sales for this years holiday season.

 

everything in prologue is coming to GT5 so any updates for prologue benefit GT5.

 

 

plus the reason why they release the prologue is to make money off of a pre-build demo that they might otherwise use as a large beta. Prologue means you basically just payed to be in the non-interactive beta. nice way to milk their cash cow aye?

Your're not wrong.. if MS had pulled this they would get slaughtered by the Sony fanboys.

 

 

 

Yeah, I'm not sure why more people don't see this clearly. It is blatantly obvious what they are doing and it gets passed along. The thing I like about polyphony is that they actually dump the earnings from this demo back into developement.  More developers should use this approach, but the only way I will support them is if it is clearly dumped into developement instead of throwing it elsewhere.  And yes MS would be slaughtered for doing this because almost everyone realizes/assumes the money would not be put back into r&d.



Pete_Beast on 04 January 2009
Bboid said:
kowenicki said:
Bboid said:
ssj12 said:
The_God_of_War said:
They really have to get the game out and stop fecking around with Prologue's. This could really help the PS3's sales for this years holiday season.

 

everything in prologue is coming to GT5 so any updates for prologue benefit GT5.

 

 

plus the reason why they release the prologue is to make money off of a pre-build demo that they might otherwise use as a large beta. Prologue means you basically just payed to be in the non-interactive beta. nice way to milk their cash cow aye?

Your're not wrong.. if MS had pulled this they would get slaughtered by the Sony fanboys.

 

 

 

Yeah, I'm not sure why more people don't see this clearly. It is blatantly obvious what they are doing and it gets passed along. The thing I like about polyphony is that they actually dump the earnings from this demo back into developement.  More developers should use this approach, but the only way I will support them is if it is clearly dumped into developement instead of throwing it elsewhere.  And yes MS would be slaughtered for doing this because almost everyone realizes/assumes the money would not be put back into r&d.

This.