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The only way the PS3 will last 10 years, is if they redesign them into minature BBQs and sell them as that in 2012 onwards.

They coudl bundle it with the PS4.

PS4 comes with its own indoor BBQ.


I too like my PS3 but I doubt it will last that long, as Microsoft will push something out along with Nintendo.



 

 

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Doktor85 said:
Infamy79 said:
The PS3 is hardly the most "future-proof" console given it's lack of RAM and slow Blu-Ray drive mean that it's already taking longer development times to get a game looking even as good as the 360 version, let alone excel.

The only reason Sony have a 10 year plan for the PS3 is because they can't afford to pay for the development of a PS4 for the next 10 years.

The arichitecture of the console doesn't really matter. Developping for the PS3 might be harder, it's still doable small developers for PSN games can do it and also all big developers. It's about userbase PS3 has the advantage if Microsoft and Nintendo start from scratch.

It kinda does matter, harder = longer = more expensive = less profits = less incentive to develop for the platform at all
Tie that in with the fact that the PS3 has the lowest install base of the current consoles by a large margin and that also means that there is a greater chance of losing money by developing for the PS3. These are the things a developer has to consider, so yes, harder development does matter.

In the past the fact that the PS & PS2 had such a massive lead over the entire market meant that developers had little choice but to develop for the PS3, this is clearly no longer the case.



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They bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience

A factor being largely overlooked because the PS3 advocates THINK they know the answer is what sort of controls will be used. Motion control is not going away so this is only a non-issue if the PS3 has completely transitioned to effective motion control itself. I somehow suspect the core supporters will never allow this.

In which case the choice will be very important. I'm pretty certain I know how this will go but lets look at it this way. It seems to be a consensus that most growth, non-traditional, female, young children are being recruited by the Wii. Can this group be persuaded to give up the simpler intuitive controls  even for the "perceived" benefits of the traitional.

Historically there is very little evidence that people move in that way. It was relativly easy to lure people away from the typewriter to the more autoated word processor, few ever returned. Driving enthusiasts prefer manual transmissions but by percentage, they are a small niche.

Good luck on getting to switch control systems.



Microsoft's next console will be released first probably in 2010. A Wii HD which is basically the Wii but able to play Wii games in HD will be released around the same time. While no more powerful than the current Wii yet able to outpout all Wii games in HD, Wii HD will cost $250.00.  A PS3 model will be more powerful yet carry the same price at the time and Sony will probably have their own motion controller on the market at the same time. 

     Most exclusive development for the 360 will stop when the Nextbox is released in 2010 with Gears 3 being the Nextbox's most anticipated launch title, other publishers demonstrating what they can do on the system, and Microsoft wanting to get the system's marketshare up so they can have at least one model down to the $299.99 price point by the launch of Gears 3. The Nextbox will have a price of about $400 to $500 at launch as it will be designed to be so technologically powerful that PC graphics cards will have to wait a year or two to be able to pass it with their price and technological prowess.

     The PS3 will be much more technologically advanced than the Wii HD and much cheaper than the Nextbox (allowing the PS3 to have a great two years being the medium between those two consoles. The PS4 won't be released until the same time as Nintendo releases their next console following the Wii HD (the Super Wii or Wii Advanced? sometime between 2012 and 2015) which will be a couple of years into the Nextbox's lifespan and when Nextbox's price gets down into the $200-300.00 price range.



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This must be another joke thread.



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AaronSOLDIER said:

I finally get it now - the 10 year life of the PS3 is an amazing plan and, keep reading after this - could win them this gen and next gen in one!

Ok so here is (I think) Sonys plan for the PS3 and that 10 year life:

Sony makes the hardware the best out of all next gen consoles (it is the most powerful so dont deny it) and so they are basically ahead of the competition in the hardware department. Ok, so hardware doesn't necessarily mean you're going to win the generation (look at the XBOX, N64 etc.) however, look a little further on in the PS3's life - when MS and Nintendo release their next gen consoles (if they do) - the PS3 may be the weakest in the hardware department, and at that time - will be cheaper also. My estimation - we'll see the next MS console in 2012 at the latest and the PS3 will be roughly $150 - $300 at that time.

Now then, when this happens - the PS3 has basically turned into the PS2, only Sony have been more clever about it this time and have taken a gamble - fact is, the PS3 will be the cheapest 8th gen console and will already have a headstart in the generation (think 360 with its 8 million headstart when PS3 and Wii launched, only by 2012 PS3 will be at what - 40 million or so? keep in mind the fact that PS3 will be getting cheaper and the fact that PS3 will have a strong 2009 for exclusives and probably each year afterwards).

So when the 8th gen starts - Sony will have a strong start and developers will be far more used to that console than the next console from the competitors. So it will be like 360 this gen, but MORE (like how 360 got a lot of support from Capcom) but imagine if the Wii was in the 360's place - PS3 could possibly the Wii of the 8th gen - getting a load of support from 3rd party companies (of course a lot of it will be shovelware, but it was the same with the PS2).

So, really, Sony WILL succeed with very strong sales from this plan however, like I said earlier - this is a huge risk on Sonys part, because it all depends on whether the other two companies decide to release a new console (I think they will, more likely Nintendo) but if they dont this plan could fail, however, it could be a huge success, when the Wii has ended its life and stops selling and PS3 gets go and possibly passes its sales and it could be almost impossible to catch the PS3's sales in the 8th gen, it'll be like trying to take on the PS2 at its 60 million sales.

The fact is, if this succeeds, Sony has made an extremely smart move and will possibly get the best of both worlds, or maybe even three:

Consumers looking for the most powerful console
Consumers looking for a cheap HD format player
Consumers not bothered about power, but plenty of games and a cheap system

What do you guys think? I think if this is the 10 year plan Sony has made - I love it, whether it works or fails, you've got to respect them for risking it and trying a new tactic.

Dream it while you can, maybe someday ill make you understand, while were living the dreams we have as fanboys fade away.....

 



numonex said:
This must be another joke thread.

 

      Easy to try to trivialize things by being flippant sometimes isn't it?



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PS360ForTheWin said:
AaronSOLDIER said:

I finally get it now - the 10 year life of the PS3 is an amazing plan and, keep reading after this - could win them this gen and next gen in one!

Ok so here is (I think) Sonys plan for the PS3 and that 10 year life:

Sony makes the hardware the best out of all next gen consoles (it is the most powerful so dont deny it) and so they are basically ahead of the competition in the hardware department. Ok, so hardware doesn't necessarily mean you're going to win the generation (look at the XBOX, N64 etc.) however, look a little further on in the PS3's life - when MS and Nintendo release their next gen consoles (if they do) - the PS3 may be the weakest in the hardware department, and at that time - will be cheaper also. My estimation - we'll see the next MS console in 2012 at the latest and the PS3 will be roughly $150 - $300 at that time.

Now then, when this happens - the PS3 has basically turned into the PS2, only Sony have been more clever about it this time and have taken a gamble - fact is, the PS3 will be the cheapest 8th gen console and will already have a headstart in the generation (think 360 with its 8 million headstart when PS3 and Wii launched, only by 2012 PS3 will be at what - 40 million or so? keep in mind the fact that PS3 will be getting cheaper and the fact that PS3 will have a strong 2009 for exclusives and probably each year afterwards).

So when the 8th gen starts - Sony will have a strong start and developers will be far more used to that console than the next console from the competitors. So it will be like 360 this gen, but MORE (like how 360 got a lot of support from Capcom) but imagine if the Wii was in the 360's place - PS3 could possibly the Wii of the 8th gen - getting a load of support from 3rd party companies (of course a lot of it will be shovelware, but it was the same with the PS2).

So, really, Sony WILL succeed with very strong sales from this plan however, like I said earlier - this is a huge risk on Sonys part, because it all depends on whether the other two companies decide to release a new console (I think they will, more likely Nintendo) but if they dont this plan could fail, however, it could be a huge success, when the Wii has ended its life and stops selling and PS3 gets go and possibly passes its sales and it could be almost impossible to catch the PS3's sales in the 8th gen, it'll be like trying to take on the PS2 at its 60 million sales.

The fact is, if this succeeds, Sony has made an extremely smart move and will possibly get the best of both worlds, or maybe even three:

Consumers looking for the most powerful console
Consumers looking for a cheap HD format player
Consumers not bothered about power, but plenty of games and a cheap system

What do you guys think? I think if this is the 10 year plan Sony has made - I love it, whether it works or fails, you've got to respect them for risking it and trying a new tactic.

Dream it while you can, maybe someday ill make you understand, while were living the dreams we have as fanboys fade away.....

 

 

      The end of gen prediction numbers in your sig are quite accurate imo (The Wii sales do probably need to be adjusted down by 5 to 20 million though).  Just not for the end of the generation but for what the numbers will be when the 360 is being replaced by the Nextbox.  However, after that point in 2010, the PS3 is going to go on to sell 50 million more consoles.



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Frankenstein said:
NJ5 said:
Graphics don't matter that much.

In term of sales, I agree. Also, judging by the Wii's success, gameplay doesn't matter either.

 

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BTFeather55 said:
PS360ForTheWin said:
AaronSOLDIER said:

I finally get it now - the 10 year life of the PS3 is an amazing plan and, keep reading after this - could win them this gen and next gen in one!

Ok so here is (I think) Sonys plan for the PS3 and that 10 year life:

Sony makes the hardware the best out of all next gen consoles (it is the most powerful so dont deny it) and so they are basically ahead of the competition in the hardware department. Ok, so hardware doesn't necessarily mean you're going to win the generation (look at the XBOX, N64 etc.) however, look a little further on in the PS3's life - when MS and Nintendo release their next gen consoles (if they do) - the PS3 may be the weakest in the hardware department, and at that time - will be cheaper also. My estimation - we'll see the next MS console in 2012 at the latest and the PS3 will be roughly $150 - $300 at that time.

Now then, when this happens - the PS3 has basically turned into the PS2, only Sony have been more clever about it this time and have taken a gamble - fact is, the PS3 will be the cheapest 8th gen console and will already have a headstart in the generation (think 360 with its 8 million headstart when PS3 and Wii launched, only by 2012 PS3 will be at what - 40 million or so? keep in mind the fact that PS3 will be getting cheaper and the fact that PS3 will have a strong 2009 for exclusives and probably each year afterwards).

So when the 8th gen starts - Sony will have a strong start and developers will be far more used to that console than the next console from the competitors. So it will be like 360 this gen, but MORE (like how 360 got a lot of support from Capcom) but imagine if the Wii was in the 360's place - PS3 could possibly the Wii of the 8th gen - getting a load of support from 3rd party companies (of course a lot of it will be shovelware, but it was the same with the PS2).

So, really, Sony WILL succeed with very strong sales from this plan however, like I said earlier - this is a huge risk on Sonys part, because it all depends on whether the other two companies decide to release a new console (I think they will, more likely Nintendo) but if they dont this plan could fail, however, it could be a huge success, when the Wii has ended its life and stops selling and PS3 gets go and possibly passes its sales and it could be almost impossible to catch the PS3's sales in the 8th gen, it'll be like trying to take on the PS2 at its 60 million sales.

The fact is, if this succeeds, Sony has made an extremely smart move and will possibly get the best of both worlds, or maybe even three:

Consumers looking for the most powerful console
Consumers looking for a cheap HD format player
Consumers not bothered about power, but plenty of games and a cheap system

What do you guys think? I think if this is the 10 year plan Sony has made - I love it, whether it works or fails, you've got to respect them for risking it and trying a new tactic.

Dream it while you can, maybe someday ill make you understand, while were living the dreams we have as fanboys fade away.....

 

 

      The end of gen prediction numbers in your sig are quite accurate imo (The Wii sales do probably need to be adjusted down by 5 to 20 million though).  Just not for the end of the generation but for what the numbers will be when the 360 is being replaced by the Nextbox.  However, after that point in 2010, the PS3 is going to go on to sell 50 million more consoles.

i think that the PS3 will sell 50m or so lifetime, but i expect the 360 to sell 50m as well and i dont see either selling more than 60m, certianly they wont catch the Wii, also i think 50m is respectable for Sony, it keeps them in the console war with MS as well as selling enough consoles to make a PS4 viable and attract exclusives and multi platform releases, i think the idea that the PS3 will sell 100m or still be selling well in 2017 is nonsense though, its just not realistic. As for the next XBOX, i imagine it will be out in 2011 at the earliest, MS have done much better with the 360 than i thought so i dont see them putting a new one out before 2011, if anything it may be later, like 2012 or 2013.