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Nintendo must continue to disrupt the market, else find themselves once again in last place



 

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I would say that the destination the console market is heading to, which may be both an inevitable and scary for some people is the single console standard. Perhaps Sony thought they had become the standard and they let their hubris take over.

The path has been laid out, the industry needs stability. It cannot continue to die off every 6 years as a new generation takes off, its not a sustaining system and its not a path for growth and stability. Either one console manufacturer will take over or it will follow the mobile phone market path of deversified manufacturing. One things almost certain, there are no successful mobile phone manufacturers who own networks and perhaps the conflict of interest between 1st and third party development is hindering growth.



Tease.


I like the automatic transmission analogy.


mike_intellivision said:
Huh?

D'uh.

Meh.

You've nicely summed up my reaction.

 



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the2bears said:
mike_intellivision said:
Huh?

D'uh.

Meh.

You've nicely summed up my reaction.

 

This. +3

 



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Squilliam said:
I would say that the destination the console market is heading to, which may be both an inevitable and scary for some people is the single console standard. Perhaps Sony thought they had become the standard and they let their hubris take over.

The path has been laid out, the industry needs stability. It cannot continue to die off every 6 years as a new generation takes off, its not a sustaining system and its not a path for growth and stability. Either one console manufacturer will take over or it will follow the mobile phone market path of deversified manufacturing. One things almost certain, there are no successful mobile phone manufacturers who own networks and perhaps the conflict of interest between 1st and third party development is hindering growth.

 

u know nothing about nokia then :P

because nokia have neglected the NA market for years, and its 40% ww =) thats over 400,000 million handsets each year.

u can sum second and third place, even forth and don't get it marketshare.



Avinash_Tyagi said:
Nintendo must continue to disrupt the market, else find themselves once again in last place

 

I said it before and ill say it again. Nintendo needs to have seperate divisions to deal with mature titles along with their standard formula of family (and now touch gen. or casual) games. Give it a new name, Disney make violent films but its under Buena Vista and its an alternative studio name, not under Disney.

If Nintendo did this, they would be able to take risks and ensure brand integrity, even though they could produce as many standard cliche PS360 killers that they want to. I know Disaster was a fukn disaster but perhaps they need to consider seperating divisions in order to take greater risks (risks as in do the same thing as the other 2).



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

So you're saying it's not guaranteed that Nintendo will win the 8th, 9th etc generations? Fair point.

But the difference between Sony and Nintendo is that even Nintendo's darkest hour, the Gamecube, made a tidy profit.



scottie said:
So you're saying it's not guaranteed that Nintendo will win the 8th, 9th etc generations? Fair point.

But the difference between Sony and Nintendo is that even Nintendo's darkest hour, the Gamecube, made a tidy profit.

tons of it came from the gameboy advance and games.

 

so is sony making profits, but not from their gaming division.



megaman79 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Nintendo must continue to disrupt the market, else find themselves once again in last place

 

I said it before and ill say it again. Nintendo needs to have seperate divisions to deal with mature titles along with their standard formula of family (and now touch gen. or casual) games. Give it a new name, Disney make violent films but its under Buena Vista and its an alternative studio name, not under Disney.

If Nintendo did this, they would be able to take risks and ensure brand integrity, even though they could produce as many standard cliche PS360 killers that they want to. I know Disaster was a fukn disaster but perhaps they need to consider seperating divisions in order to take greater risks (risks as in do the same thing as the other 2).

 

I have to disagree with both of these post. Sony was able to sale more consoles for two generations with out disrupting the market. All they did was get a lot of third parties to support them. That's all Nintendo and Microsoft have to do and is actually what Microsoft is doing. This is why the Xbox 360 is causing Sony problems.

The second post states that Nintendo should have two divisions one for muture and the other for their regular games. No, I think one studio could make one or two mature games but Nintendo can not and should not try to make every genre of game. Third parties are developing mature titles for the Xbox 360 and the PS3. Why can't these same third parties develop mature games for the Wii?



If Nintendo is successful at the moment, it’s because they are good, and I cannot blame them for that. What we should do is try to be just as good.----Laurent Benadiba