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@ starcraft

I was not criticising the PS3 for being too "high spec." I was criticising it for being too highly priced.


They are directly related.

As yet, there is no substantial proof that the PS3 can deliver a performance advantage significant enough to have any effect whatsoever on mainstream console adoption.


Without games like Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, Gran Turismo 5: Prologue and Metal Gear Solid 4 being what they provide, the PS3 would probably have sold worse.

The same I think will be the case for high profile PS3 exclusives in 2009, I think increasingly so.

What do you think this misinformation is?


PS3s burning down houses (actually it's a relative sturdy and reliable console compared to the 360), Sony not doing repairs (that actor who poured his vacuum cleaner dust bag over his PS3 and an service man refusing to touch it), Blu-Ray failing a certain death (actually it does better than DVD did taking equal time frames), etc.

but continuing to believe that Blu-Ray will lead to higher PS3 sales than if the console had launched at $400 with DVD9 is folly and nothing more.


Blu-Ray production costs are coming down rapidly. IMO the long term advantages far outweigh the short term disadvantages.

The PS3 is in a negative cycle. Declining sales relative to other platforms equals less game support from third parties, which in turn equals less game revenue and console purchases for the business. This will not reverse.


I don't think it will matter much for the long run. So far all best sold 360 third party titles have seen versions or sequels on the PS3 as well (only 6 Microsoft published exclusives in the 360's top 25). The PS3, at nearly 20 million units sold today is more relevant to third party games developers than it ever was. I think most third parties will continue to treat and support PC/360/PS3 as one target and the Wii (and possibly PS2) as another target.



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@ Fumanchu

Killzone 2 beta (textures):
http://ps3.psu.com/media/killzone-project-/killzone-project--ss-142.jpg

With all the latest unreal engine 3 advancements put to use in Gears 2 as this video demonstrates I don't think Killzone 2 is "way beyond" anything.


http://www.gametrailers.com/player/43389.html



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

PS3 vs 360 sales

So wait, is gears 2 a lot better looking than gears 1? cos im playign gears 1 now, and its great, and i have gears 2 now and will start when this is done...is it a significant improvement?



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colonelstubbs said:
So wait, is gears 2 a lot better looking than gears 1? cos im playign gears 1 now, and its great, and i have gears 2 now and will start when this is done...is it a significant improvement?

Certainly noticable.  It runs smoother and it has much better lighting.  Textures are a little better but far and away the biggest improvement is the sheer scale and the amount of things going on.

 



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colonelstubbs said:
So wait, is gears 2 a lot better looking than gears 1? cos im playign gears 1 now, and its great, and i have gears 2 now and will start when this is done...is it a significant improvement?

IMO single player is better, but the online experience despite 5 vs 5 instead of 4 vs 4 is worse due to lag.

IMO it's not very different though, but Gears 1 already had good graphics. If you loved Gears 1 you will probably love Gears 2 as well.



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I'm not going to get into a screenshot post-athon in a feeble attempt to prove what 'way beyond' means in such a subjective manner. I conceded that overall it looks better but you certainly couldn't put a $200 price difference on the graphical advantages or state it's "way better"...IMO