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Steroid said:
Paperdiego said:
are the discs panasonic is creating, the 400 gig ones, compatible with blue rays that are in the market right now? i remember reading somewhere that they weren't but i am not sure.

 

A one TB (1024 gig) Bluray disk is in the works and should be hitting the shelves in about 2013. The best part? It will work with all bluray players, just like the 400 GB versions hitting stores next year:

http://www.techradar.com/news/video/1tb-blu-ray-disc-in-the-works-490214?src=rss&attr=news

and cited:

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Blu-ray-dvd-movie,5502.html

http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/05/28/1659255&from=rss

 

And looks like Bluray is being adapted faster then DVD was:

http://www.startribune.com/entertainment/tv/36410579.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUUsr

 

So only one question remains: Will a blu future make haters see red?

 

 

Now whats the point of a 400gig for a movie lover? You think a studio is going to put a Box Set on One Blu-Ray disc? It won't happen for a couple reasons.

1) I don't care how well the Blu-Ray disc is protected by it's Coated Layer it can still scratch, and/or become lost/stolen, and what will you have? 4-6 movies Gone, lost forever, go out and buy a whole new box set, rather then replace 1 movie in a normal box set.

2) Studios like to show the Words (Special 2 Disc Set) because it appeals to consumers. (More Bang For Your Buck) so to speak. Blu-Ray was (in many eyes) to do away with Multiple discs, but thats not the case as you will find with Iron Man, Dark Knight to name a few that have Multiple Discs.

 

Now for storage purposes it will be a great Idea.. (I mean instead of paying $130.00 for an External 1TB Hard drive that can be wiped, formatted, added to, etc.etc) you can pay $250.00 for a PC Drive + $24.99 for 25gigs 1 layer BR Disc.., man for that price.. I wonder how much that 400gig will go for...

O forgot, you can get the 1TB Hard drive NOW.... not a year from now.

 

 

 

 

 

 



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bbsin said:
It's not functionality that makes a format successful, it's the backing of movie studios.

 

Functionality can make a big difference, but that functionality has to be incredibly awesome. For example, if this format allowed you to own hundreds of movies on a single disc, and the disc was scratch proof, and it allowed you to transfer movies over the internet and burn them on to another similar disc, that may be something people would pay money for even with (initially) weak support from studios.

However, the jump from 1080p to 1940p does not fit that desciption. That's minor functionality, at best, and movie studios would need to back such a format with enormous force to shove it down consumer's throats. Since studios aren't doing that, this format won't take off.



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Pete_Beast said:
K-DOGG said:
it doesn't matter ,tvs are only showing a picture in 1080p. the human eye can't ajust to anything more. so whats the point?

 

Uhm, yes we can.

Ummm, no, we can't, not unless you are sitting a few inches away from your TV screen.

Most of the time the difference between 1080p and 720p is negligible unless you have a 40"+ screen or are sitting really close to the TV.

The limiting factor is the human eye pretty much from now on.  More resolution won't make a difference.

Now that is not to say that things like a higher contrast ratio won't make a difference, but in general the extra resolution isn't going to make a damn bit of difference.

 



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It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

Current HDTVs can not handle those resolutions and the human eye has a hard time discerning the improvements made by resolutions beyond 1080P. Factor in the slow adoption rate for current HDTVs, the already reasonable costs of stand-alone BluRay players and the fact that BluRay is already established in the market and I'd say that this format has absolutely no chance of succeeding.



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And to those who think VOD is the next coming of video formats, VOD has underperformed at every step of the way. People have been predicting VOD would take off for years, and it is still just a humble slice of the home video pie. Blu-Ray is yielding much higher profits for movie studios than VOD.

At least things like Netflix are making it have more mass appeal. But technically that is more of an added bonus rather than true VOD. True VOD is where you pay to rent (or buy) titles directly. Most people wouldn't use Netflix if all it offered was VOD. Most people use Netflix because you can rent the DVD's. The streaming functionality is just a bonus.



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It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

Akuma, you're looking at the wrong implementations of VOD. Where you should be looking is where it's actually succeeding: with YouTube, Blip.TV, Google Video. They embrace the actual values most consumers want: wide variety, easy access, reliable streaming, and absolute control by the user over what and when they get with the on-demand content. They are the seeds of where VOD can succeed, not the dated and restrictive pay-per-view model or the overblown HD-quality-video models.



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ssj12 said:
it wont be standardized... Blu-ray can actually handle 1440p with 50GBs. Resolutions of 1920p wont even be needed for another 8 years for the standard TV to evolve to handle it. You would still need an OLED TV or a 100+" HDTV to take advantage of the resolution.

Care to show me which BR spec profile contains testing and support of 1440p?

 



magik10 said:
ssj12 said:
it wont be standardized... Blu-ray can actually handle 1440p with 50GBs. Resolutions of 1920p wont even be needed for another 8 years for the standard TV to evolve to handle it. You would still need an OLED TV or a 100+" HDTV to take advantage of the resolution.

Care to show me which BR spec profile contains testing and support of 1440p?

 

 

All specs.... the difference between 1080p and 1440p video isnt codex its space...



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ssj12 said:
magik10 said:
ssj12 said:
it wont be standardized... Blu-ray can actually handle 1440p with 50GBs. Resolutions of 1920p wont even be needed for another 8 years for the standard TV to evolve to handle it. You would still need an OLED TV or a 100+" HDTV to take advantage of the resolution.

Care to show me which BR spec profile contains testing and support of 1440p?

 

 

All specs.... the difference between 1080p and 1440p video isnt codex its space...

 

So all the current SOC's used in different players have been spec'd to 1440p decoding?