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Dryden on 17 December 2008
swearitsoul said:
Can u imagine if they had blu ray cinema's WOW :P

You do realize that the effective equivilent digital resolution of a 35mm film negative is ~12M pixels @ 4092x2728? Or that 70mm IMAX film is >50M pixels @ 10000x7000?

Reel-to-reel projectors have had a higher "resolution" picture than Blu Ray since the 1950s.

Now digital surround sound, film wear, and mechanical failure is another issue entirely ...



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Lolcislaw on 17 December 2008

I'm really not suprised, Blu Ray is heavily advertisied and pushed by every company and every retailer , plus there were some massive releases in last few weeks. It's still gets absolutely destroyed by the DVD.



MikeB on 17 December 2008
Lolcislaw said:
I'm really not suprised, Blu Ray is heavily advertisied and pushed by every company and every retailer , plus there were some massive releases in last few weeks. It's still gets absolutely destroyed by the DVD.

Taking DVD's progress as a guideline it should take Blu-Ray as a movie format 3 to 4 more years to really take over. DVD penetration is enormous, so every percentage market share gain is big business.

It may get there quicker due to the PS3 or it may take longer due to people needing a HDTV to full take advantage of the new medium. Either way Blu-Ray is doing very well and looks to almost certainly considerably beat VHS adoption at this rate.



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Alby_da_Wolf on 17 December 2008

@Lolcislaw and MikeB:
Considering that dVD recorders with HDD are approaching commodity prices only now, I'm not surprised at all. Most people want also a recording device, and now that we are used to at least DivX quality, VHS, still surviving for low end recorders, is showing all its age, but BD recorders are still too expensive, so I'd guess we'll see another increase next year or in two years with combo drives BD player + DVD and HDD recorder (further increase, but not commodity yet, I agree with MikeB 3-4 years prediction about this), in the meantime after having seen DVD players' zenith, we'll see DVD+HDD recorders' one, it's just the way things normally go.



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akuma587 on 17 December 2008
SMcc1887 said:
swearitsoul said:
Can u imagine if they had blu ray cinema's WOW :P

Lol, 1080p cinemas at least

 

Cinemas have a higher resolution than 1080p.  However, non-digital projectors can actually look worse than a Blu-Ray would, especially on a larger screen.  A digital projector will almost always look better than a Blu-Ray though.

 



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akuma587 on 17 December 2008

Sales are pretty phenomenal in any case though. These are the kind of sales that retailers and studios cannot simply ignore. Far more than just a niche product.



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Dryden on 17 December 2008
akuma587 said:

Cinemas have a higher resolution than 1080p.  However, non-digital projectors can actually look worse than a Blu-Ray would, especially on a larger screen.  A digital projector will almost always look better than a Blu-Ray though.

I wouldn't say the blame falls entirely on analog projectors, but rather its the "fault" of the theater owners, who could not run a profitable business if they properly cleaned and recalibrated their projectors and the film reels under the duty-cycle they have to run their business by.

Historically, the biggest problem with the 60 year old 35mm reel film format is that the development process (filming, editing, post production, duplication, et al) meant that if you hit your theater for a private early preview and saw the first run of the film through a clean projector, you would still see a "diminished" picture due to the print being at least four generations removed from the recorded source.

Shooting through a musty, dusty auditorium onto a 30' multiplex screen that was installed in 1983 and hasn't been cleaned once in the 25 years since doesn't help.



Dno on 17 December 2008
super_etecoon said:
Dno said:

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=2184

Nice. i love to see how well Blu-ray is doing... Sony was right to add blu-ray in ps3 as sells are going up for the format.

erm....Blu-Ray is only doing well because it comes standard with the PS3.  Not the other way around.

Sony would have been smarter not to even mess with it.

 

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rhisc on 17 December 2008

Thats a great accomplishment but the story seems to be a bit biased towards Blu Ray.  What they fail to state is that the 600k first day sales only accounted for 21% as the rest were DVD sales.  DVD is still king for now.

http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/12/will-the-dark-k.html

 





DMeisterJ on 17 December 2008

But the blu-rays failed!