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Hyruken said:
Jordahn said:
Here are some varying GTAIV graphical comparisons...

Finally we have what is partially an issue, and partially a positive to Grand Theft Auto IV on the Playstation 3. Prior to playing the game you will have to undergo a mandatory install of approximately 3.4GB onto the PS3 Hard Drive. It is annoying that we are burdened with this (the XBox 360 version has no install as far as we know), but the positive is that the load times on the PS3 version are actually shorter then on Microsoft's console.

http://www.futuregamez.net/ps3games/gta4/review2.html

Much has been made of the PS3's resolution with Grand Theft Auto IV apparently running at 640p compared to 720p on the XBox 360 version. Side-by-side comparisons though show virtually no difference between the two and if anything, the PS3 game actually looked the better of the two with less jaggies and more visual effects here and there. Either game though is sure to impress overall.

http://www.futuregamez.net/ps3games/gta4/review3.html

As I had the pleasure of testing both versions of the game, I would like to start with the Playstation 3, since you probably already heard of the freeze-type problems some players seem to experience. Fortunately my console, even if equipped with the 60GB hard-drive, never gave in, so everything went smoothly from installation to multiplayer. Out of curiosity I played the PS3 version for hours, but aside from a few slow-downs during the cinematics I had no freezes whatsoever, so I cannot venture to comment about it. The combination was PAL with PS3 60GB PAL acquired at launch, if anyone is interested. One thing worth mentioning is that it never ran in 1080p, even though this option does appear on the box and my system supports it.
The Xbox version does run in 1080p, but this is not of much help as the rendering is done in 720 and scaled to a higher resolution. Unofficial sources claim that the PS3 version is scaled in a lower resolution hence the advantage goes to Xbox. On the other hand shadows and lighting effects are better on the PS3, so it's a hard decision to choose between the two.

http://computergames.ro/en/games/viewitem/id/1050/name/grand-theft-auto-iv-playstation-3/section/review/page/3.html

As I have both versions of the game, it is only natural that I compare the two. There is a 8-10 minute install process for the Playstation 3 which does a great job of keeping that version moving, but given that the vast majority of the game streams on both versions, the net result is almost a draw. The Xbox 360 version seems to have a deeper color palette and a little less motion blur/bloom, but the Playstation 3 version seems to have less pop-in and sharper anti-aliasing. Both versions have a few framerate hits here and there, but it never seems to drop the game into unplayable territory. In point of fact I’m going to rate them the same as they are for all intents and purposes equal.

http://www.gamingtrend.com/Reviews/review/review.php?ReviewID=1034

On Sony’s side you will get the more slightly more solid game experience from having a good chunk of data loaded onto the systems hard drive. After the install the PS3 has less lighting glitches and less object pop-ups. The PS3 seems to perform a little better than the Xbox 360 which can be an important to rightfully picky.

http://www.extremegamer.ca/multi/reviews/gtaivb.php

If you're wondering about differences between the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 versions of Grand Theft Auto IV, the truth is that there aren't many. The PS3 version can only be played after a mandatory install that takes around 10 minutes, and its load times are a little shorter and less frequent as a result. The visuals, which don't always hold up to close scrutiny but are impressive during typical gameplay, are comparable and feature the same quirks (shadows that flicker, for example) on both consoles.

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/grandtheftauto4/review.html?page=2

For those wanting to know which version looks better, the edge goes to the PS3. The textures and framerate are comparable, but the PS3 has far less pop-in. The 360 has richer colors, but the PS3 has better anti-aliasing making it look a little cleaner. Because GTA IV can preload onto the PS3 hard drive, the in-game loads are faster. Don't worry Xbox owners, the load times are rarely more than 30 seconds and don't occur very often. The slight visual edge goes to PS3, but the 360 is no slouch. Either version will do you proud.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/869/869541p5.html

The problem is all these sources state opinion where as Eurogamer state fact. They did it scientificly. They don't say anything like "the difference is hardly noticeable". They just let the figures do the talking. You make your mind up by reading the numbers. If places such as IGN think the PS3 is better for framerate then they need to come up with something a bit more better then "because we said so". Eurogamer are far more credible then any of those. IGN....does anyone even look at that place anymore?

 

 

Wrong again...  Gamers play games not because of numbers but of the end results of the games that appeal to them.  That is a fact.  It's a fact that the cars in Project Gotham racing (Xbox) were made up of a higher polygon count that the cars in Gran Turismo 3 (PS2), but it's been reported that the cars in Gran Turismo 3 looked better.  Like in one of my previous examples...

"Much has been made of the PS3's resolution with Grand Theft Auto IV apparently running at 640p compared to 720p on the XBox 360 version. Side-by-side comparisons though show virtually no difference between the two and if anything, the PS3 game actually looked the better of the two with less jaggies and more visual effects here and there."

But gaming haters will only look at it from a slanted POV for a slanted agenda by purposely throwing out anything that doesn't adhere to that slanted view.



Hackers are poor nerds who don't wash.

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FKNetwork said:
Jordahn said:
FKNetwork said:
Jordahn said:
Dark Chaos said:
Jordahn said:
This thread fails and so does most multi-platform comparison topics because it leaves out a very importan factor: audio. Normally, the PS3 wins in audio because it imploys 5.1 and/or 7.1 LPCM which makes the audio experience more robust and deeper with multiplatform games which for some puts COD:5 PS3 better than the 360 version.

 

So in the Audio dept 360 allows u to play ur own music while the PS3 doesnt.So I guess every racing games is better than the PS3 version?

In the red...  Do a little research.  Learning through education will enlighten you.

 

So let me get this right, because the 360 always ends up having better multiplatform games in terms of graphics/framerate/screen tear/2x or 4x AA as standard you then have to resort to audio?! lmao, desperation sets in with the sony fanboys,

The 360 has fantastic sound, I have a lovely surround setup and 52" 1080P hd tv and hear no difference in sound quality between my 360 and PS3 turned right up, maybe you do but I certainly don't! I know the PS3 does have better sound capabilities but most people wouldn't know this when playing games on 90% of surround sound systems, and don't forget not all PS3 games even support 7.1 audio specially multi platform games.....

If you want to bring audio into this too then the 360 wins hands down again for the simple fact: custom music in EVERY game, something the PS3 STILL can't do very well. I always use custom music when I'm on my 360, playing my PS3 is not the same without me being able to listen to what I want while I play my games.

 

So let me get this straight, because you are very closed minded you have to take anything reasonably positive on the PS3 and call it fanboyism?  There are so many factors per game per each gamers that your personal perferences does not dictate everyone elses.  You cannot disagree that some gamers will prefer the original soundtrack in some games.  So with the PS3, some of those titles are in 5.1 and/or 7.1 LPCM.  And it's not just about the soundtrack, because it's also about the audio in general.  A deeper and more robust sounding explosion can make the game more immersive.  And you cannot account for everyone's video and audio equipment while you also cannot account for everyone's perception.  Remember, this topic is about "The Battle of Multiplatform Gaming" in which multi-platform gaming comprises of more than just video and certainly more than your personal one-sided preferences.

After reading your typical PS3 "fanboy" reply I will stick to my last post:

 

So let me get this right, because the 360 always ends up having better multiplatform games in terms of graphics/framerate/screen tear/2x or 4x AA as standard you then have to resort to audio?! lmao, desperation sets in with the sony fanboys,

The 360 has fantastic sound, I have a lovely surround setup and 52" 1080P hd tv and hear no difference in sound quality between my 360 and PS3 turned right up, maybe you do but I certainly don't! I know the PS3 does have better sound capabilities but most people wouldn't know this when playing games on 90% of surround sound systems, and don't forget not all PS3 games even support 7.1 audio specially multi platform games.....

If you want to bring audio into this too then the 360 wins hands down again for the simple fact: custom music in EVERY game, something the PS3 STILL can't do very well. I always use custom music when I'm on my 360, playing my PS3 is not the same without me being able to listen to what I want while I play my games.

 

Jordahn seems to be in complete denial but oh well, not my problem lol

Sadly enough, the love of gaming just might be my problem because I've loved gaming since 1977, and its community had taken a nosedive by all the self-righteous fanboys such as yourself.  Can you actually defend your claim that my argument was "fanboy" and in denial?  Can you deny the fact that 5.1/7.1 LPCM is of higher quality than compressed audio?  Can you deny the fact that some gamers prefer the in-game music?  Can you deny the fact that console games are more that just graphics alone?  Denial seems to be coming from the one who claims it on others...



Hackers are poor nerds who don't wash.

frybread said:

(For the newbie: a multiplatform game, aka cross platform, is when a specific game is made for different systems.)

When 360 and PS3 multiplatform games are pitted against each other, using a variety of hardware tests including framerate, resolution, loading times, and graphic effects, the results can be surprising. Being unbiased myself (I do not own 360 or PS3, nor do I plan on buying either) I find eurogamer to be a good source of these comparisons not just because of their rigorous tests, but because they allow you to judge for yourself with screenshot and video comparisons. You can view them all here:
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=318609

Special thanks to Mister Slimm who keeps an updated list of the following results here:
http://misterslimm.wordpress.com/2008/11/06/eurogamer-xbox-360-vs-ps3-head-to-head-face-off-results/

The Epic Battle
Format:
(Game name ~ Better Platform)

Army of Two ~ Tie
Assassin’s Creed ~ 360
Baja: Edge of Control ~ 360
Battlefield: Bad Company ~ Tie
Beijing 2008 ~ 360
Beowulf ~ Tie 
Bioshock ~ 360
Blacksite: Area 51 ~ 360
Bladestorm: The Hundred Years’ War ~ Tie
Blazing Angels: Secret Missions of WWII ~ Tie
Blazing Angels: Squadrons of WWII ~ 360
 Brothers in Arms: Hell’s Highway ~ Tie
Burnout Paradise ~ Tie
Call of Duty 3 ~ 360
Call of Duty 4 ~ Tie
Call of Duty: World at War ~ 360
Cars Mater-National ~ Tie
Clive Barker’s Jericho ~ 360
Colin McRae: DiRT ~ PS3 
Conan ~ Tie
Condemned 2: Bloodshot ~ 360
Conflict: Denied Ops ~ 360
Dark Sector ~ 360
Dead Space ~ 360
Def Jam: Icon ~ Tie
Devil May Cry 4 ~ Tie
Dynasty Warriors: Gundam ~ Tie
Dynasty Warriors 6 ~ PS3
Enchanted Arms ~ 360
Enemy Territory: Quake Wars ~ 360
FaceBreaker ~ 360
 Far Cry 2 ~ Tie
Fallout 3 ~ 360
Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer ~ 360
F.E.A.R. ~ 360
FIFA 08 ~ Tie
 FIFA 09 ~ Tie
FIFA Street 3 ~ 360
Fight Night Round 3 ~ PS3
 Fracture ~ 360
Grand Theft Auto IV (GTA IV) ~ 360
Guitar Hero: Aerosmith ~ 360
Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock ~ 360
 Guitar Hero: World Tour ~ 360
Half-Life 2 ~ 360
Half-Life 2: Episode One ~ 360
Half-Life 2: Episode Two ~ 360
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix ~ PS3
Iron Man ~ 360
Juiced 2 ~ 360
Kane and Lynch: Dead Men ~ 360
Kung Fu Panda ~ 360
Lego Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures ~ 360
Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga ~ Tie
Lost: The Video Game ~ 360
Lost Planet: Extreme Condition ~ 360
Madden NFL ‘08 ~ 360
Madden NFL 09 ~ 360
Marvel Ultimate Alliance ~ 360
Medal of Honor: Airborne ~ 360
Mercenaries 2: World in Flames ~ 360
Midnight Club: Los Angeles ~ 360
 Mirror’s Edge ~ Tie
MX vs. ATV Untamed ~ 360
NBA 2K7 ~ PS3
NBA Live 08 ~ 360
NBA Street Homecourt ~ 360
Need for Speed Carbon ~ Tie
Need for Speed ProStreet ~ 360
NFL Tour ~ 360
NHL 2K7 ~ Tie 
NHL ‘08 ~ 360
NHL 09 ~ Tie
Oblivion, The Elder Scrolls IV ~ PS3
Overlord: Raising Hell ~ 360
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World’s End ~ 360
Portal ~ Tie
Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 ~ Tie
Pure ~ Tie
 Quantum of Solace ~ Tie
Race Driver: GRID ~ 360
Ratatouille ~ Tie
Ridge Racer 6 /7 ~ PS3
Sega Rally ~ Tie
Sega Superstars Tennis ~ Tie
Skate ~ 360
Soldier of Fortune: Payback ~ 360
Sonic the Hedgehog ~ 360
Soul Calibur IV ~ 360
Spider-Man: Web of Shadows ~ 360
Spider-Man 3: The Game ~ 360
Star Wars: The Force Unleashed ~ 360
Stranglehold, John Woo Presents ~ Tie
Stuntman Ignition ~ 360
Team Fortress 2 ~ 360
The Bourne Conspiracy, Robert Ludlum’s ~ Tie
The Club ~ 360
The Darkness ~ 360
The Godfather ~ PS3
The Golden Compass ~ Tie
The Incredible Hulk ~ PS3
The Simpsons Game ~ Tie
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2007 ~ Tie
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 09 ~ 360
Timeshift ~ 360
Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2 ~ 360
Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six: Vegas ~ Tie
Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six: Vegas 2 ~ Tie
Tom Clancy’s Splinter Cell: Double Agent ~ 360
Tony Hawk Project 8 ~ 360
Tony Hawk’s Proving Ground ~ 360
Top Spin 3 ~ 360
Transformers: The Game ~ 360
Turning Point ~ Tie
Turok ~ 360
UEFA Euro 2008 ~ Tie
Unreal Tournament 3 ~ PS3
Viking: Battle for Asgard ~ 360
Virtua Fighter 5 ~ 360
Virtua Tennis 3 ~ 360
WWE Smackdown vs Raw 2008 ~ Tie
World Championship Snooker 2007 ~ 360


Summary
Better on 360: 74
Tie: 38
Better on PS3: 10

 

Methodology

"Key to our quest is mastery of the video outputs of the respective consoles. Zero-compromise 24-bit full-range RGB captures from the HDMI ports of the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 allow us to produce the best comparison screen grabs, while Eurogamer's h264-equipped video player means the best in streaming video (make sure you have that 'high quality' feature enabled). And if all that isn't good enough, the high-def captures in all their 720p 60FPS majesty can be downloaded for playback on fast PCs, Xbox 360 or PS3 via the author's blog where similar content for the technically obsessed can also be found. [Enough plugs. - Ed]"


http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=318609

 

Ok first off Eurogamer is sponsored by Microsoft, of course they are gunna be biased towards the PS3 they always have...