| papflesje said: Haven't read all the pages, but what exactly is pushing the cost of a blu-ray disc so high? |
Pretentious snobbery.
| LordTheNightKnight said: "The answer is simply making it easier for that 98%." And that is why DVD was such an intuitive leap over VHS. You would have to actually deliberately design a player to force someone to rewind a movie in DVD before it would play back. In most players, the ease of use is built in. |
I agree.
Plus, like I said about the jump from B&W to color TVs, the upgrade to DVD was simple.
Plug it in the wall, and into the A/V port on your TV, put in a DVD, and you had a new movie experience.
The high-def upgrade isn't near as easy because of complicated HD TV settings and HDMI errors & issues. Plus most people see the upgrade from one disc format to another as a small upgrade.
The upgrade from VHS to DVD was more than just a visual upgrade, it made their life easier by upgrading... plus the asthetic reasons as well. Big bulk tape vs thin disc last generation to thin disc vs thin disc this generation.
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Shocker........however, I am excited to get my Blu-Ray player post Christmas (wifey said i could XD). Blu-Ray just needs some more time, I agree that costs need to come down on disks.
I was standing there holding a copy of The Dark Knight on Blu-Ray and on DVD trying to convince my wife that the $10 extra dollars was worth it for the HD picture.......she didn't understand, and I think that is the norm with many consumers during these financial times.
Signs of a bad economy. Hopefully the world will rebound next year.
Comrade Tovya said:
I couldn't agree more, and to back that up, I'll throw money into the pot as well on this bet. Outside of a few VERY hardcore videophiles, the difference is 99.9% unnoticable. That's why people haven't rushed out to adopt Blu-ray... because the majority of people can find a reason to shell out that much cash for something they see as only a minor upgrade. |
There will be even less of an reason to upgrade to Bluray if VOD services use compressed 720p (or in the unlikely case 1080p), there will be even less people that can see the difference. There might be a greater chance of finding audiophiles with 7.1 setups than finding someone that can see the difference between uncompressed 1080p and compressed 720p.
largedarryl said:
There will be even less of an reason to upgrade to Bluray if VOD services use compressed 720p (or in the unlikely case 1080p), there will be even less people that can see the difference. There might be a greater chance of finding audiophiles with 7.1 setups than finding someone that can see the difference between uncompressed 1080p and compressed 720p.
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Definitely.
My dad thinks his 480p and 1080p are the same visually.. he just doesn't understand the hype. When I tried to re-fix his HD setup and make it true HD again, he told me, "don't bother, it looks the same to me".
I think a lot of people think this way really.
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BTW, I'm not even sure HD streaming video will overtake DVD, because SD streaming video is doing so well. Look at the success of youtube, and its playback format. A format with major compression that is often loaded with artifacts and is rarely as easy to use as other video codecs, but in terms of playback, people don't seem to care.
I also remember that there was a big deal about surpassing CD audio, and there was a format war over the successor. The winner, from left field, MP3, which had worse audio than CD.
A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.
Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs
| LordTheNightKnight said: BTW, I'm not even sure HD streaming video will overtake DVD, because SD streaming video is doing so well. Look at the success of youtube, and its playback format. A format with major compression that is often loaded with artifacts and is rarely as easy to use as other video codecs, but in terms of playback, people don't seem to care. I also remember that there was a big deal about surpassing CD audio, and there was a format war over the successor. The winner, from left field, MP3, which had worse audio than CD. |
Well the thing abou the sub-SD streaming video on the internet is due to slow internet lines. There is really not much of a limit on speed sending HD content through properly setup VOD services. I think the popularity of online streaming video should be a critical market point, mainstream consumers are okay with sub-SD broadcasts for a majority of their video needs.
largedarryl said:
Well the thing abou the sub-SD streaming video on the internet is due to slow internet lines. There is really not much of a limit on speed sending HD content through properly setup VOD services. I think the popularity of online streaming video should be a critical market point, mainstream consumers are okay with sub-SD broadcasts for a majority of their video needs.
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If it's not intuitive on the consumer end, then it runs into the same wall as HD on discs.
A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.
Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs
johnsobas said:
yea it's kind of an unfair comparison but it's the only comparison we have. It is top 20 movies from each format and it's done by revenue not by amount sold. |
Done by Revenue....God thats terrible. So basically we can half the percentage given Blu Ray's premium price.
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