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famousringo on 12 November 2008

Ironically, your CRT was almost certainly capable of HD numbers of pixels.



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theprof00 on 12 November 2008
RolStoppable said:
Traitor.

Now you made it in the top 100 of my "people I hate here on VGC" list.

have you published such a list yet?

Deneidez on 12 November 2008
GhaleonUnlimited said:

Look on craigslist for HD CRTs -- they only go up to 36" 4x3 or 34" 16:9 but seriously giangantic TVs are just silly -- everything but 1080p looks like yuck, and I can't believe how many people think they need a TV that takes up their whole wall, and SD stuff still looks awesome unlike new techs.

Well, my 5 years old CRT can do 1440p 64Hz... This 720p and 1080p are incredible(!) is just a good laugh...

Heres the one I have(There wasn't even page for it anymore because its so damn old monitor. I had to use wayback machine to find it. :D)

http://web.archive.org/web/20031217204836/http://www.samsung.com/au/products/monitors/discontinuedmodels/950p.asp



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Pristine20 on 12 November 2008
tuoyo said:
Pristine20 said:
tuoyo said:
I have to say I disagree. I don't see why a game has to be HD to be enjoyed fully. Galaxy is still one of the greatest games this gen and would remain so till the end of the gen. I think developers stick to HD because it is much easier to sell pretty looks than quality gameplay. Also I have never had any problem reading anything on Wii. In fact I am pretty sure text in NES were completely readable.

However, I agree 100% that HD movies aren't what they were/are hailed to be.

 

Games that try to portray realism benefit from HD graphics and console power. Case in point COD4. There is a fanbase for such games too. I have a friend that I converted into gaming just because he though cod4 really looked like the war in Iraq.

Galaxy isn't like this. Would you consider COD:WaW Wii to be on par with the PS360 version?

I would cosign on the movie part but I was never a big movie fan anyway. I last went to the movie theater in 2006.

To be honest I was going to get this game if it got great reviews but would have done so on Wii rather than 360 simply because the Wii remote would make it a much more enjoyeable experience than pretty graphics with a control pad.  I have been playing Fallout 3 and can't stand aiming with the controller (so use the VATS combat system as long as I have enough Action Points). And I downloaded the Left 4 dead demo and couldn't enjoy the game at all because of using a controller to aim. 

Okay I have gone somewhat off topic.  COD: WaW with PS360 graphics and Wii control would be much better than what COD with Wii graphics so on that basis I agree that graphics can make game better.  I just don't agree with those who can't enjoy a game unless it is on a HD console as if before this gen no good game existed.

 

well if you have a 360 and still use an SDTV, I can see why you wouldn't care to buy cod5 on 360 or wii but remember that when the 6-hour single player campaign is up, you spend the rest of you time on the game online. Even if the game got good reviews on wii, would you rather play it online on 360 or wii?

I don't think anyone is saying that games need to be HD to be enjoyed. However, people tend to expect better picture as technology improves without thinking of the price they have to pay for it as this has always been the trend for video game consoles especially. HD graphics just adds a "wow" factor for most games although for others, it could be a relatively important selling point.

I've already preordered persona 4, a ps2 game even though I have a ps3. Also, I'm currently replaying xenogears. However, I won't be too happy if new JRPGs released on ps3 and looked like these games because I expect to get the HD graphics and power I paid for lol.

 



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bardicverse on 12 November 2008

@Rol - Good! Its about time. Now, where's your kitten? I want to kick it to get further up the list.

@Ghaleon - Well yes, as far as numbers, of course CRT is HD. I run at 1024x768 on a regular basis. That said, can you explain why the same game looks drastically better on the same setting on a laptop screen as opposed to my CRT, with both computers running similar hardware specs? I'd love to understand the logic behind the difference, because there theoretically shouldn't be much if any.



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tuoyo on 12 November 2008
Pristine20 said:
tuoyo said:
Pristine20 said:
tuoyo said:
I have to say I disagree. I don't see why a game has to be HD to be enjoyed fully. Galaxy is still one of the greatest games this gen and would remain so till the end of the gen. I think developers stick to HD because it is much easier to sell pretty looks than quality gameplay. Also I have never had any problem reading anything on Wii. In fact I am pretty sure text in NES were completely readable.

However, I agree 100% that HD movies aren't what they were/are hailed to be.

 

Games that try to portray realism benefit from HD graphics and console power. Case in point COD4. There is a fanbase for such games too. I have a friend that I converted into gaming just because he though cod4 really looked like the war in Iraq.

Galaxy isn't like this. Would you consider COD:WaW Wii to be on par with the PS360 version?

I would cosign on the movie part but I was never a big movie fan anyway. I last went to the movie theater in 2006.

To be honest I was going to get this game if it got great reviews but would have done so on Wii rather than 360 simply because the Wii remote would make it a much more enjoyeable experience than pretty graphics with a control pad.  I have been playing Fallout 3 and can't stand aiming with the controller (so use the VATS combat system as long as I have enough Action Points). And I downloaded the Left 4 dead demo and couldn't enjoy the game at all because of using a controller to aim. 

Okay I have gone somewhat off topic.  COD: WaW with PS360 graphics and Wii control would be much better than what COD with Wii graphics so on that basis I agree that graphics can make game better.  I just don't agree with those who can't enjoy a game unless it is on a HD console as if before this gen no good game existed.

 

well if you have a 360 and still use an SDTV, I can see why you wouldn't care to buy cod5 on 360 or wii but remember that when the 6-hour single player campaign is up, you spend the rest of you time on the game online. Even if the game got good reviews on wii, would you rather play it online on 360 or wii?

I don't think anyone is saying that games need to be HD to be enjoyed. However, people tend to expect better picture as technology improves without thinking of the price they have to pay for it as this has always been the trend for video game consoles especially. HD graphics just adds a "wow" factor for most games although for others, it could be a relatively important selling point.

I've already preordered persona 4, a ps2 game even though I have a ps3. Also, I'm currently replaying xenogears. However, I won't be too happy if new JRPGs released on ps3 and looked like these games because I expect to get the HD graphics and power I paid for lol.

 

On the contrary I use a HD projector with 6 foot wide projection screen so more than have the set up to get the full benefit of HD gaming.  But the Wii remote makes a shooting game much more enjoyeable on Wii than on 360 even if the game has super amazing graphics

 



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kjj4t9rdad on 12 November 2008
tuoyo said:
Pristine20 said:
tuoyo said:
Pristine20 said:
tuoyo said:
I have to say I disagree. I don't see why a game has to be HD to be enjoyed fully. Galaxy is still one of the greatest games this gen and would remain so till the end of the gen. I think developers stick to HD because it is much easier to sell pretty looks than quality gameplay. Also I have never had any problem reading anything on Wii. In fact I am pretty sure text in NES were completely readable.

However, I agree 100% that HD movies aren't what they were/are hailed to be.

 

Games that try to portray realism benefit from HD graphics and console power. Case in point COD4. There is a fanbase for such games too. I have a friend that I converted into gaming just because he though cod4 really looked like the war in Iraq.

Galaxy isn't like this. Would you consider COD:WaW Wii to be on par with the PS360 version?

I would cosign on the movie part but I was never a big movie fan anyway. I last went to the movie theater in 2006.

To be honest I was going to get this game if it got great reviews but would have done so on Wii rather than 360 simply because the Wii remote would make it a much more enjoyeable experience than pretty graphics with a control pad.  I have been playing Fallout 3 and can't stand aiming with the controller (so use the VATS combat system as long as I have enough Action Points). And I downloaded the Left 4 dead demo and couldn't enjoy the game at all because of using a controller to aim. 

Okay I have gone somewhat off topic.  COD: WaW with PS360 graphics and Wii control would be much better than what COD with Wii graphics so on that basis I agree that graphics can make game better.  I just don't agree with those who can't enjoy a game unless it is on a HD console as if before this gen no good game existed.

 

well if you have a 360 and still use an SDTV, I can see why you wouldn't care to buy cod5 on 360 or wii but remember that when the 6-hour single player campaign is up, you spend the rest of you time on the game online. Even if the game got good reviews on wii, would you rather play it online on 360 or wii?

I don't think anyone is saying that games need to be HD to be enjoyed. However, people tend to expect better picture as technology improves without thinking of the price they have to pay for it as this has always been the trend for video game consoles especially. HD graphics just adds a "wow" factor for most games although for others, it could be a relatively important selling point.

I've already preordered persona 4, a ps2 game even though I have a ps3. Also, I'm currently replaying xenogears. However, I won't be too happy if new JRPGs released on ps3 and looked like these games because I expect to get the HD graphics and power I paid for lol.

 

On the contrary I use a HD projector with 6 foot wide projection screen so more than have the set up to get the full benefit of HD gaming.  But the Wii remote makes a shooting game much more enjoyeable on Wii than on 360 even if the game has super amazing graphics

 

 

Enjoyable for you, but not all.  Personally, I think the Wii remote sucks.  I would much rather sit and relax while pushing buttons then stand up and wave my arms around.  But this much like your statement is opinion. 

If you do play your Wii on a 6 foot wide projecter, it diffinatly looks like crap.  I say this because my sons Wii looks like crap on my 46" lcd.  If the game is good, better graphics add much more enjoyment.



Party Monster on 12 November 2008

360 could seem like the economical choice. But trust me Bluray makes DVD look like a Gif file. You say your SD Tv has been used for a long time? Why not get a Console that has the potential to last just as long? What about RROD? You think it's just a myth? Do you really want to pay a $50 online gaming fee every year? Choose one or two games from this list of PS3 games per year you could buy if you didn't have that fee. Also How much will you be paying for the 360 HD?

Bioshock
MGS4
Oblivion
Resistance 2
Uncharted
LBP
DeadSpace
Folklore
DMC4
Wipeout HD
Fallout3
GTA4
COD4

Well if you're not interested in these games then enjoy the 360. Also How much will you be paying for the 360 HD?



bardicverse on 12 November 2008
Party Monster said:
360 could seem like the economical choice. But trust me Bluray makes DVD look like a Gif file. You say your SD Tv has been used for a long time? Why not get a Console that has the potential to last just as long? What about RROD? You think it's just a myth? Do you really want to pay a $50 online gaming fee every year? Choose one or two games from this list of PS3 games per year you could buy if you didn't have that fee. Also How much will you be paying for the 360 HD?

Bioshock
MGS4
Oblivion
Resistance 2
Uncharted
LBP
DeadSpace
Folklore
DMC4
Wipeout HD
Fallout3
GTA4
COD4

Well if you're not interested in these games then enjoy the 360. Also How much will you be paying for the 360 HD?

As I mentioned in the OP, I don't watch movies anywhere outside of the movie theater or the internet. I dont rent nor buy DVDs, nor would I Blu Ray.

As for online gaming, Ive never been much for it. Networks, even in high speed PC environments can be laggy. So I probably wouldnt get XBLive. What I would get is games like the new Silent Hill, RE5, and other games that fit that genre that I couldn't obtain on my Wii. Though you do have me thinking in a different direction, as Silent Hill is available for PC, and if RE5 hits the PC also, I could just revive my PC gaming days, since my living room would still be dominated by my SDTV and my Wii.

 

 



DMeisterJ on 12 November 2008

The old guy finally gets it! ^_^