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DonWii on 28 July 2007

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http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/28/al-roker-discovers-xbox-recall-on-today-show/

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Sadly we can't embed video from the Today Show, so you're just going to have to follow the link, but you can pretty much imagine the exact moment Microsoft's PR department went nucking futs. During a Today Show segment about the "video game wars," somehow it was written into the tech guy's voice-over that there was an Xbox 360 "recall." We all know this is far from the truth. After the segment finishes the tech guy quickly corrects the "recall" error, but Roker ain't havin' none of that. Roker restates it as a "recall" and then says, "This one, they are voluntarily saying to bring this back, what's wrong with it?"

Microsoft gave the same song and dance to the Today Show that they've given everyone, saying that there is something wrong, but they won't say what. On the bright side for Microsoft, the Today tech guy does say the Xbox 360 is the one to own. He says the PS3 is the most "high-tech" because of the Blu-ray player and calls it the "Trojan horse," which has Roker asking if people will jump out of it and kill everyone. Yes, he does actually say that.

They then show off the Wii and awkwardly state that it's the #2 "player" and the Xbox 360 is the #1 ... um, well in context of those three systems that is true, but please let us not bury the PS2 yet, which according to Nielson and overall sales is definitely #1. Oh well, it was just another video game piece by the mainstream, they flubbed a nice bit and in the end Roker was actually most bothered by the idea that Nintendo's Miis don't have arms. And here we thought the little Greeks popping out of the PS3 killing everyone would have been far more frightening.

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DonWii on 28 July 2007

This thread is, essentially, different from the one posted this morning. While that one only focused on the 360's hardware issues, this one focuses on all three; strengths and weaknesses of each.



naznatips on 28 July 2007

I'm always entertained when mainstream press tries to get into the intricacies of the game war past "This one sells better and it's cheap." Unfortunately for Microsoft, the Today Show is very popular and that will REALLY hurt their mainstream appeal.



DonWii on 28 July 2007

@naz,

Possibly, but they DID call it the #1. However, it IS the mainstream and, as you said, "This one sells better and it's cheap". PS3 was advertised as a BR player, and will sell to people who want a BR player, which is the reason why PS3 attach ratio is low.

Even with Sony announcing PS3 sales increasing 135%, software sales saw only a 15% increase.



DonWii on 28 July 2007

Old thread has video up. Not much reason for mine, though the title is more subtle.



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Nonquihote on 28 July 2007
DonWii said:
@naz,

Possibly, but they DID call it the #1. However, it IS the mainstream and, as you said, "This one sells better and it's cheap". PS3 was advertised as a BR player, and will sell to people who want a BR player, which is the reason why PS3 attach ratio is low.

Even with Sony announcing PS3 sales increasing 135%, software sales saw only a 15% increase.

 You do know PS3 and wii attach rate is almost the same, 360 is double.

Whats your reasoning for the wii attach rate beign as you say "low" 



naznatips on 28 July 2007
Nonquihote said:
DonWii said:
@naz,

Possibly, but they DID call it the #1. However, it IS the mainstream and, as you said, "This one sells better and it's cheap". PS3 was advertised as a BR player, and will sell to people who want a BR player, which is the reason why PS3 attach ratio is low.

Even with Sony announcing PS3 sales increasing 135%, software sales saw only a 15% increase.

You do know PS3 and wii attach rate is almost the same, 360 is double.

Whats your reasoning for the wii attach rate beign as you say "low"


There is ZERO recent data on attach rates except for Japan, where the Wii has double the attach rate of the PS3.  Please don't make statements without sources.



Nonquihote on 28 July 2007
naznatips said:
Nonquihote said:
DonWii said:
@naz,

Possibly, but they DID call it the #1. However, it IS the mainstream and, as you said, "This one sells better and it's cheap". PS3 was advertised as a BR player, and will sell to people who want a BR player, which is the reason why PS3 attach ratio is low.

Even with Sony announcing PS3 sales increasing 135%, software sales saw only a 15% increase.

You do know PS3 and wii attach rate is almost the same, 360 is double.

Whats your reasoning for the wii attach rate beign as you say "low"


There is ZERO recent data on attach rates except for Japan, where the Wii has double the attach rate of the PS3. Please don't make statements without sources.


Why dont you omplain about him making statments without sources?  Last time real attach rates came out they were damn close, i atleast got history on my side.   Why is it ok to spread fud about the PS3? and not about the wii.  Whats with the double standard.



DoesWhatNintenDont on 28 July 2007

Is it just me or is it rather ironic that NBC was the first station to say something on a major show about this?

Seeing how Microsoft is a partner and owns MSNBC.... xD



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naznatips on 28 July 2007
Nonquihote said:
naznatips said:
Nonquihote said:
DonWii said:
@naz,

Possibly, but they DID call it the #1. However, it IS the mainstream and, as you said, "This one sells better and it's cheap". PS3 was advertised as a BR player, and will sell to people who want a BR player, which is the reason why PS3 attach ratio is low.

Even with Sony announcing PS3 sales increasing 135%, software sales saw only a 15% increase.

You do know PS3 and wii attach rate is almost the same, 360 is double.

Whats your reasoning for the wii attach rate beign as you say "low"


There is ZERO recent data on attach rates except for Japan, where the Wii has double the attach rate of the PS3. Please don't make statements without sources.


Why dont you omplain about him making statments without sources? Last time real attach rates came out they were damn close, i atleast got history on my side. Why is it ok to spread fud about the PS3? and not about the wii. Whats with the double standard.


DonWii has a source. He didn't post it because he assumed this comon knowledge http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=14801

You're right that the last time attach rates came out the Wii and PS3 were almost the same with the 360 double, but that was more than 4 months ago and a lot of games have been released on all systems since then. DonWii made a statement based off of recent data, but yours was based off very old data.