Things like this are what help to keep the homophobic American stereotype alive in the eyes of the rest of the world.
I'm glad I live in Canada. I don't plan to ever get married but I'm glad that I could if I changed my mind someday.
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| mesoteto said: no other religions have the practice, but heres the catch the homosexual community inst really fighting for marriage rights from other religions they are targeting the christian faiths in this nation and many of them want teh state to side with them so they can have a regular church wedding |
I have seen this and that approach is just as wrong as the churches fighting a legal union between homosexuals.
Just as the church has no right to dictate morality to the government, the government should have no rights to force churches to do things that stand against their moral principles.
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| mesoteto said: is it hurting them any way to not use that name if they are given full legal right just like another married couple? no its not however my faith is losing another part of what it has fought to hold onto so lets recap you lose nothing by not getting the name but my faith loses something by having the name taken away how is that fair? ohh wait its not |
What does your faith have anything to do with how a society that is governed by separation of church and state conducts itself? And boo freaking hoo if you are upset by it. Are your rights more important than theirs?
How about we let blacks and women vote, but we make them go to separate polling locations and call it something different. They can "mote" but they can't "vote." I mean its still the same in the end right? Why should they care if we call it "vote" or "mote." I mean isn't it completely reasonable to make them go to separate voting locations to free up congestion for all the white males?
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It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...." Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson
| Thatmax said: Things like this are what help to keep the homophobic American stereotype alive in the eyes of the rest of the world. |
what is homophobic, if it was the black panther, teh klan or anyother group, hell it could be teh American lung association i would feel the same way i have no problem with gay people It’s a biological tick the same way my brain is wired to like the opposite sex there are wired for the reverse, that doesn’t make them bad people What makes them the villain in this to me is the fact they are trying to get the governments not only to give them legal rights (which they should have b/c no legal citizen deserves less) but to make them say hey churches and faiths you have no right to deny the marriage rights to anyone hand over more of your self "Just as the church has no right to dictate morality to the government, the government should have no rights to force churches to do things that stand against their moral principles." that is perfect--that is my point
akuma587 said:
What does your faith have anything to do with how a society that is governed by separation of church and state conducts itself? And boo freaking hoo if you are upset by it. Are your rights more important than theirs? How about we let blacks and women vote, but we make them go to separate polling locations and call it something different. They can "mote" but the can't "vote." I mean its still the same in the end right? Why should they care if we call it "vote" or "mote." I mean isn't it completely reasonable to make them go to separate voting locations to free up congestion for all the white males? |
Hey, don't knock it. I'm a firm believer that Obama is only 3/5ths of a President.
Anyway, mesoteto, do you honestly believe that "your faith" invented the word marriage? History says otherwise... In that case, don't you think it's a big presumptuous to claim the word as your own?
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We shouldn't let black people and white people marry either, because its not in the Bible. We shouldn't even acknowledge that Asian people exist, because they sure as hell aren't in the Bible.
And pi is actually 3.00, according to the Bible.
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke
It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...." Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson
rocketpig said:
Hey, don't knock it. I'm a firm believer that Obama is only 3/5ths of a President.
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Its in the Constitution, am I right?
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke
It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...." Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson
akuma587 said:
Its in the Constitution, am I right? |
Wait... Are you trying to lay claim to the other 2/5ths?
I already called dibs.
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akuma587 said:
What does your faith have anything to do with how a society that is governed by separation of church and state conducts itself? And boo freaking hoo if you are upset by it. Are your rights more important than theirs? How about we let blacks and women vote, but we make them go to separate polling locations and call it something different. They can "mote" but they can't "vote." I mean its still the same in the end right? Why should they care if we call it "vote" or "mote." I mean isn't it completely reasonable to make them go to separate voting locations to free up congestion for all the white males?
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what does me being a white male have to do with this, or voting for that matter? I supposed if its about discrimination then sure, i am the only legal group left in the states you can discriminate aganist so we can go there if you want but it wont help your argument i think your starting to twist facts and scarecrow arguments b/c you cant answer my fundamental question why do they have to take a name away from a group that is willing to give on everything else A good compromise mean no side is completely happy The faiths of the world have to recognize the legal rights couple have regardless of who make them up but we get to keep our names Homosexual couple get the legal right but not the name
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