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I vastly preferred McCain to Obama.

First of all, politics aside, McCain had none of the shady parts to his character that Obama had. Obama was an admitted former drug user, had many connections such as William Ayers and others, and also attended a heavily anti-American church. Obama's family in Kenya have all also testified and said that Obama was born in Kenya making him a non natural born U.S. Citizen (http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Blogs/Message.aspx/3074). Obama is also connected with the highly corrupt Chicago Democratic Political machine.

John McCain's service to this country is undeniable, having served in Vietnam and gone to the United States Naval Academy. McCain has also been a consistently hard working member of the U.S. Senate.

John McCain's energy plan is one of the strongest points of his campaign. McCain was in favor of creating at least 40 new Nuclear power plants in the United States. A huge majority of all greenhouse gas emissions are caused from coal burning power plants. McCain was also in favor of Wind Solar and Hydro Energy.

Other than Nuclear Energy McCain's energy policy is superior as well in the fact that Obama is a supporter of Ethanol. Ethanol is a step backwards from gasoline, getting a lower fuel economy while barely reducing emissions. Not only that but it clogs the current gas pipelines so there would be emissions in trucking it around. Also a HUGE, I am talking VAST amount of land would have to be dedicated to just growing corn for use in Ethanol, this would result in more land elsewhere having to be used for farming for food which means more trees cut down which are the natural CO2 scrubbers. McCain supported drilling for more oil to keep the prices affordable for all Americans, removing subsidies on Ethanol so that it no longer distorts the market, and putting more money into 0 emission electric and hydrogen powered vehicles.

McCain's energy policy was 0 emission and opened thousands, if not millions of job opportunities in both the auto and energy industry.

McCain also has a far stronger stance on global security which is still a major issue right now. Pulling out of Iraq completely at this point in time could lead to a collapse of everything we have worked for over there so far. And it is very normal for a U.S. military presence to remain at a place that was occupied, look at the Philippines, Germany, and South Korea for example.

When it came to taxes McCain offered tax cuts for all Americans and reduce and restrict the federal government. I believe that the United States should have as small of a federal government as possible, and the main purpose of the federal government should be protecting it's citizens.

Obama's tax policy includes the largest tax increase in U.S. history, and tax credits which are pretty much welfare checks for everyone else. That is a socialist policy, and in Marxist theory, socialism is the first step from a capitalist government to a communist one.

Those are just some of the many reasons why I did not vote for Barrack Obama and why I will vote against him in 4 years.

P.S. Congratulations to the Obama camp for their win in the Presidential Election.



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mrstickball said:
And that's despite the fact that Republicans were the ones that voted in the Civil Rights Acts and Fair Housing Acts of the 1960's

Wasn't that like the weekend before they switched parties though?  Doesn't seem like a good claim to make.  It's like saying “I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it."



mrstickball said:
And that's despite the fact that Republicans were the ones that voted in the Civil Rights Acts and Fair Housing Acts of the 1960's.

 

you are right, the Republicans were the party that more heavily supported the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (though both parties mostly supported it), but the Civil Rights Act of 1968 under Johnson is where the Democrats alienated the South.  Nixon then turned the South Republican by opposing further civil rights legislation and not alienating any Republicans by properly executing the previous legislation, and the Republicans had held the South ever since by voting against new civil right legislation.

Civil Rights Act of 1968

Passage of the bill

The passage of the bill was largely spurred by the assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr. a week before. [2] Vote statistics (Senate):

  • Passed 71-20
  • Democrats: 42-17 (71.2% For, 28.8% Against)
  • Republicans: 29-3 (90.6% For, 9.4% Against)

House:

  • Passed 250-172
  • Democrats: 150-88 (63% For, 37% Against)
  • Republicans: 100-84 (54.3% For, 45.6% Against)

 

When Johnson and many Dems supported the bill in 1968, the Dems lost the South.  Notice, House Republicans didn't support it as strongly.



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The Ghost of RubangB said:
mrstickball said:
And that's despite the fact that Republicans were the ones that voted in the Civil Rights Acts and Fair Housing Acts of the 1960's

Wasn't that like the weekend before they switched parties though?  Doesn't seem like a good claim to make.  It's like saying “I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it."

No party has 'switched sides'. The Republicans were founded on anti-slavery principles, and were the same party to vote for fair housing, and other pro-black measures in the 60's. However, it's also true that in the 60's, that many dixiecrats/democrats did switch affiliation to the Republican party.

And Steven is correct. I've used these figures before.

Also, it's interesting to note that the Republicans are also the ones backing the illegalization of abortion - which many (including myself) view as a human rights issue that Dems seem to love to hate.



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.

And many liberals think it's funny that the modern hawk/anti-Civil-Rights party calls itself pro-life.



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Now what civil rights are we against, again?



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.

mrstickball said:
Now what civil rights are we against, again?

 

 

Gay Marriage, Affirmative Action, Equal Education funding, Litigation legislation protecting corporations from discrimination suits...

Do you want me to keep going or do you want me to provide examples of Republican racists?



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mrstickball said:
Also, it's interesting to note that the Republicans are also the ones backing the illegalization of abortion - which many (including myself) view as a human rights issue that Dems seem to love to hate.

We could resurrect that abortion thread if you want to go there. There was a pretty good debate on the various places where people believe a bunch of cells* become a person and why.

*or just 2, for the conception crowd



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I think that gay marriage would be the biggie there steven.  Although anti-anti-discrimination legistlation sounds deliciously machiavellian.



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I wouldn't push Gay marriage too much, because in the constituency it doesn't seem to be a very partisan issue. There are many dissenters in both groups of voters.



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