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appolose on 05 November 2008
mrstickball said:
appolose - Don't worry, things won't be as bad as the doomsayers think they will.

Take it from someone that is *litterally* worried about family members dying of heart attacks due to the election, things won't be as bad as some worry.

As much as this is (what I believe) the worst possible outcome for conservative values and smaller government, the new government will be walking a tight rope.

I've been telling everyone this: We have 2 options for the new Obama government:

1) They actually fix things and America gets better. They do this by bridging the gap(s), and actually do *heal the nation*. Left-leaning government ends up going moderate, everyone wins.

2) Obama does what we all fear, and screws up the country. In 2 years, we'll have a new senate, and voters can easily make Obama's Democratic government pay, and have a moderate/right senate. This would give BHO a lame duck congress/senate. 4 years he's out of office.

So either way, it won't be as bad. We survived under Clinton (albeit with a Republican congress/senate), but as much as we can fearmonger, America has survived for 200+ years, and will continue to do such. Even if I hate European socialistic politics, they at least work somewhat, and it's still a livable country.

It's like Mike Huckabee said in the Regent University debate "It won't be the end of the world. It's just going to recover a lot more slowly than if McCain was president".

Huckabee/Palin 2012 :)

True, I guess he will be under a lot of scrutiny for the next few years; I just hope a rebounding economy (whenever it does) isn't automatically afixed to the Democrats merely because they're in office.  Nevertheless, you'r probably right.

 



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Senlis on 05 November 2008

I feel that a lot of african-americans voted for Obama just because he is black. (I have heard reports that he is not completely black, but rather a mix of ethnicity). My choice for voting McCain. Those african-americans who voted for Obama just because of his race had better hope he does a good job as president.




 

Senlis on 05 November 2008

And about the rebounding economy. It would be ironic if Democrats were praised for fixing the economy when they were the cause of it in the first place:

"It was the left-- the "liberals" or "progressives"-- who led the charge to force lending institutions to lend to people whose credit history made them eligible only for "subprime" loans that were risky for both borrowers and lenders. " - Thomas Sowell

http://townhall.com/columnists/ThomasSowell/2008/11/04/a_sound_economy

It was the Liberals who forced Fallie Mae and Freddie Mac to lend to people who could not pay their mortgages. Liberals said that FM&FM were not lending to these people because they were a minority, but the real reason was because they did not qualify financially.

Also, the president is often held accountable for the condition of the economy when it is mainly not under his control. I can't remember which station it is, but it is the person who sets the prime rate and other officials who really have control of the economy.




 

akuma587 on 05 November 2008
Senlis said:
I feel that a lot of african-americans voted for Obama just because he is black. (I have heard reports that he is not completely black, but rather a mix of ethnicity). My choice for voting McCain. Those african-americans who voted for Obama just because of his race had better hope he does a good job as president.

90% of blacks vote Democrat anyways, and the rest of the blacks are only 1% of the total population of the country.

I would bet money on it that more whites voted for McCain because he was white than blacks voted for Obama because he is black.

 



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appolose on 05 November 2008
akuma587 said:
Senlis said:
I feel that a lot of african-americans voted for Obama just because he is black. (I have heard reports that he is not completely black, but rather a mix of ethnicity). My choice for voting McCain. Those african-americans who voted for Obama just because of his race had better hope he does a good job as president.

90% of blacks vote Democrat anyways, and the rest of the blacks are only 1% of the total population of the country.

I would be money on it that more whites voted for McCain because he was white than blacks voted for Obama because he is black.

 

 

I was wondering what the usual rate for blacks supporting democrats was; I had no idea it was that much.



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akuma587 on 05 November 2008

In comparison, 97% of blacks voted Democrat this election. I mean those 7% of blacks may have voted for Obama because he was black, but the rest would have probably voted for someone like Hillary anyways just because she is a Democrat.

The numbers and history really don't match up with people's assertions that black people voted for Obama because he is black.



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It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

appolose on 05 November 2008
akuma587 said:
In comparison, 97% of blacks voted Democrat this election. I mean those 7% of blacks may have voted for Obama because he was black, but the rest would have probably voted for someone like Hillary anyways just because she is a Democrat.

The numbers and history really don't match up with people's assertions that black people voted for Obama because he is black.

 

That would be hard to test; Black Republican vs. White Democrat may be the only telling outcome.



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akuma587 on 05 November 2008

Black Republicans are kind of like albino squirrels. They are out there, but good luck finding very many of them.

That being said I have met a few, but ever since the Civil Rights era blacks have never exactly seen eye to eye with Republicans.



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It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

mrstickball on 05 November 2008

And that's despite the fact that Republicans were the ones that voted in the Civil Rights Acts and Fair Housing Acts of the 1960's.



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LordTheNightKnight on 05 November 2008

"Even if I hate European socialistic politics, they at least work somewhat, and it's still a livable country."

Um, uh... don't you mean continent?

That could have been an honest typo, though. I just thought I'd let you know, it case it was.



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