anyone who did not see that it was a political ploy to debase is blinding himself.
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| akuma587 said: We all saw how good John Edwards bid for President turned out. Palin will fall on her face in the exact same way. She isn't the kind of person who could bring the Republican party back together. She will turn it even further right. |
I think Edwards would of beat Bush if he would of beat Kerry honestly.
Kasz216 said:
I think Edwards would of beat Bush if he would of beat Kerry honestly. |
You're probably right. He definitely has a more universal appeal than Kerry did. Oh well, now his political future is completely over after the cheating on his wife while she was dying scandal.
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke
It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...." Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson
akuma587 said:
You're probably right. He definitely has a more universal appeal than Kerry did. Oh well, now his political future is completely over after the cheating on his wife while she was dying scandal.
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Eh.... Didn't stop John McCain... well ok he's not president... but he got to run again.
If it wasn't for Kerry losing anyway we wouldn't have our first black president. Which counts for something. Pretty much everything that happened in this second bush term has been unstoppable collataral from the first term or before anyway.
An Edwards presidency probably wouldn't of looked much different. Maybe a bit more insular... economic crisis would of happened anwyay... would of had to stay in iraq anyway...
Whatever happens from here... at least a lot of people who used to not be able to vote and had to suffer segregation and stuff are really happy.
It was probably the best thing that could have happened for the Democrats that Bush won again honestly, minus Bush appointing two Supreme Court Justices.
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke
It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...." Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson
| akuma587 said: It was probably the best thing that could have happened for the Democrats that Bush won again honestly, minus Bush appointing two Supreme Court Justices. |
Eh, even the judges haven't that big a deal... what was the big decision these last 8 years? The Handgun thing?
Well that and the partial birth abortion thing, which was really weird considering the abortion ruling...
Supreme Court judges make me sad as they rarely seem to interpret the law anymore, just pick what side they like and say the law says that.
Kasz216 said:
Eh, even the judges haven't that big a deal... what was the big decision these last 8 years? The Handgun thing? Well that and the partial birth abortion thing, which was really weird considering the abortion ruling... Supreme Court judges make me sad as they rarely seem to interpret the law anymore, just pick what side they like and say the law says that.
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I am just talking about long-term in terms of the justices. But you're right that nothing too major has changed as of now, and probably won't now that Obama was elected. Hell, even in South Dakota they voted down the ban on abortion that included the exceptions of rape and incest.
Judges often get a bad name, and the Supreme Court justices often have to make some of the most difficult judicial decisions out of anyone in the country in either new areas of law or areas of law that have drastically changed over time. There are some judges who legislate from the bench, but that term is thrown around like its going out of style.
And Congress and different states can make just plain ambiguous laws sometimes, or laws that completely miss a new problem that has come up. So judges have to fill in the gaps more times than you would think, not to mention overthrowing older common law that has simply grown outdated with the times or which was completely unsound to begin with.
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke
It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...." Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson
akuma587 said:
I am just talking about long-term in terms of the justices. But you're right that nothing too major has changed as of now, and probably won't now that Obama was elected. Hell, even in South Dakota they voted down the ban on abortion that included the exceptions of rape and incest. Judges often get a bad name, and the Supreme Court justices often have to make some of the most difficult judicial decisions out of anyone in the country in either new areas of law or areas of law that have drastically changed over time. There are some judges who legislate from the bench, but that term is thrown around like its going out of style. And Congress and different states can make just plain ambiguous laws sometimes, or laws that completely miss a new problem that has come up. So judges have to fill in the gaps more times than you would think, not to mention overthrowing older common law that has simply grown outdated with the times or which was completely unsound to begin with.
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Eh, even then Obama should be putting in 2-3 judges during his presidency.
The last thing any republican who pays attention to polls wants is an overturn on Roe vs Wade. It would just KILL Them... i mean you thought Bush was bad...
It would just kill them politically, i'd expect a constitutional ammendment.
I mean, only about 13 states have pro-life attitudes, and of those... a lot are well within the margin of error polling wise.
I mean that really would destroy their party...
They'd never win Ohio again... which would make victory paths for republicans to the white house REALLY impossible.
It's the same reason Democrats don't push gay marriage, and wouldn't of even did so had they gotten a super majority.
Though I think people would get over gay marriage personally.
True, but there is much more that the Supreme Court is there for than to keep Roe v. Wade in place. Look at the landmark decision not too long ago forcing the Bush Administration to give legal representation to all the detainees in Guantanomo.
Hell, Obama might even get to appoint 4 justices to the court. Stevens, Kennedy (both of whom either want to leave or pretty much have to leave cause of old age), Ginsburg (78), and even Scalia (72) might all be gone. Scalia certainly doesn't want to leave, but 8 years is a long time when you are that old.
But I agree the backlash would be extreme if Roe v. Wade was overturned. There are very few times I would say that something that happens in our government would provoke an assassination, but overturning Roe v. Wade would probably be one of them. Probably 20-30% of the country would be flat out enraged.
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke
It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...." Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson
| akuma587 said: True, but there is much more that the Supreme Court is there for than to keep Roe v. Wade in place. Look at the landmark decision not too long ago forcing the Bush Administration to give legal representation to all the detainees in Guantanomo. Hell, Obama might even get to appoint 4 justices to the court. Stevens, Kennedy (both of whom either want to leave or pretty much have to leave cause of old age), Ginsburg (78), and even Scalia (72) might all be gone. Scalia certainly doesn't want to leave, but 8 years is a long time when you are that old. But I agree the backlash would be extreme if Roe v. Wade was overturned. There are very few times I would say that something that happens in our government would provoke an assassination, but overturning Roe v. Wade would probably be one of them. Probably 20-30% of the country would be flat out enraged. |
Hey if John McCain was planning to be president for 4-8 years, Scalia can probably hold out.
There is more to the Supreme Court, but that's all people think about anyway... and really it's one of the few issues that just can't be changed via laws anyway.
I mean with Guantanomo bay... Congress could of did something once it became democratic if the SC didn't intercede.
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