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greenmedic88 said:

Squilliam said:
The 4xxx series never had a heat problem. It ran at the temperature it was designed to.

The reason why they let the temperature idle at 80 degrees is to reduce the hot/cold cycling of the GPU and to reduce the noise. IIRC the GPU is rated to 105 degrees C.

The temp of the GPU is not so much the issue as the heat it generates inside the case. If you don't have a well ventilated case, all that heat stays inside your PC case.

The 4870 and 4870x2 have a vent in the upper half of the card to expel heat which is channeled by the shape of the fan/heatsink housing. Single slot 4850s don't.

Regardless of how hot it can run stable, a better heatsink and fan system like the Thermaltake DuOrb VGA cooler, could have the same 4850 running at 28 degrees idle, 37 degrees at load. Prime for overclocking.

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150W TDP is 150W TDP, the GPU may be cooler but the heat is still being produced. If you overclock the GPU the heat output may be even worse and besides this, the GPU is designed to run hot to prevent heat cycling (one of the main causes of the Nvidia GPU failures). Just because people think that a hot GPU is a problem doesn't mean it actually is.

ATX specification has a rear cooling fan just above the output of the GPU by design so most of the heat goes straight out of the case anyway. This isn't really a problem unless you're using multiple GPUs where radiated heat can compound the issue further even with a dual slot card. Remember a 4850 uses similar wattage to an entire Falcon Xbox 360 and thats on top of other componentry inside the case. Add a 2nd and you've got quite a heat problem.

 

 



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There's a very low ceiling when it comes to overclocking with the R700 because of the heat.

Like any other processor, lowering the core temps is conducive to running at higher frequencies while maintaining stability. You wouldn't make the same argument about running an overclocked CPU with a stock cooler vs. a more efficient aftermarket cooler, so why would you think the R700 is any different?

Mainly because few regular PC users look into aftermarket VGA cooling solutions. In most cases, it isn't necessary.

But if I had the option between running a GPU at 70 idle or 40 idle, that's kind of a no-brainer if OC performance was priority one over any related additional costs. Running a pair of R700s in Crossfire config is best done with cases that place VGA cards between a 120mm intake and 120mm exhaust fans in addition to the stock or aftermarket cooler.

A stock 4870x2 has no temp problems when installed in an appropriate case, and it is not much more than a pair of R700 GPUs with 2GB worth of memory modules on a single card. The inside of an Antec 900 with 5 fans isn't even slightly warm.



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Does the 4870 support DX10.1 and SM4.1 and is better than the 4850?



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SM4.1 is only compatible with DX10.1 supported cards. Both cards are (4850/4870). Check individual vendor products to be sure.

The 4870 just runs everything faster. It all depends on budget.



greenmedic88 said:
SM4.1 is only compatible with DX10.1 supported cards. Both cards are (4850/4870). Check individual vendor products to be sure.

The 4870 just runs everything faster. It all depends on budget.

In this case though, there is no ambiguity. All 4850s and 4870s support DX10.1/SM4.1.

The 4870 will run everything about 10% faster than a 4850 because it is the same chip, just running at a 10% higher speed.