By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - General - Interesting Gallup Poll About Obama Supporters

Paul on 18 October 2008
The_vagabond7 said:

Obama now holds a lead among voters whose support he struggled to attract during the primaries, namely those with less formal education. He now leads McCain 51% to 40% among those with a high school education or less, after trailing McCain by 48% to 41% after the GOP convention. It's possible the economic crisis has made these voters' financial concerns more influential in their vote than possible concerns about Obama's experience.

Obama maintains the high support among postgraduates that has been evident all year, but has erased McCain's advantage among college graduates.


So either McCain WAS preying upon the uneducated, but then Obama started stealing them, or it's just a general shift. I'll lean towards the latter seeing as how he also erased McCain's advantage among college graduates. Hispanic people are turning to Obama too, is he preying on them as well? Maybe he would rather OPEN the borders if all the mexicans will vote for him! I heard that some terrorists would prefer his being in power, maybe he'll actually support terrorism so that they can vote too! This is fucking insane. You get more unbelievable with every post. I thought "..." would sum it up, but you didn't get it.

Now let's be clear on something, I'm not saying you're stupid for being for McCain or conservative. There are alot of very intelligent educated conservatives, even here on this site (Kasz for instance, Rocketpig I think leans conservative), hell I'm fiscally conservative and socially liberal. Your conservative viewpoints don't make you look like an ass. Your posts do.

haha... bigjon gets owned.... hahahahah!!!!!

 



Around the Network
WiiStation360 on 18 October 2008
highwaystar101 said:

Er, I'm going to be controversial in suggesting this, but Doesn't the amount of black people voting for Obama seem a bit racist?

That's if that data is accurate of course.

Clinton got something like 85% of the black vote.  Hillary would have received similar a similar percentage as her husband, I assume.  Race does play a part, but it is mostly a Democrat/Republic thing.

I think there are probably just as many people voting for McCain primarily because he is white, as there are voting for Obama primarily because he is black.



HappySqurriel on 18 October 2008
WiiStation360 said:
highwaystar101 said:

Er, I'm going to be controversial in suggesting this, but Doesn't the amount of black people voting for Obama seem a bit racist?

That's if that data is accurate of course.

Clinton got something like 85% of the black vote.  Hillary would have received similar a similar percentage as her husband, I assume.  Race does play a part, but it is mostly a Democrat/Republic thing.

I think there are probably just as many people voting for McCain primarily because he is white, as there are voting for Obama primarily because he is black.

 

This is (obviously) a form of cherry picking but:

One of the core problems with the "Rock-The-Vote" campaign, and other campaigns to get unmotivated voters out to the polls, is that most unmotivated voters are not educated or informed well enough to make an intelligent choice.

Now, I think there are a lot of uneducated and uninformed people who are voting for McCain but I suspect they’re voting for him because he is a Republican not because he is white. On top of that, because Obama is black and his presidency would represent a historic milestone I think that a lot of uneducated an uninformed people have become motivated to vote for him and these people (when added to the uninformed and uneducated people who will vote for him because he is a Democrat) easily outnumber McCain’s uneducated and uninformed voters.

Is this (necessarily) a problem?

Not really, it is just a problem within the democratic system which no one has found a way to counter.

 

Note: When I'm talking about uneducated I am refering to having a solid knowledge-base about the issues at hand, not necessarily having a higher level of formal education.



The_vagabond7 on 18 October 2008

"One of the core problems with the "Rock-The-Vote" campaign, and other campaigns to get unmotivated voters out to the polls, is that most unmotivated voters are not educated or informed well enough to make an intelligent choice."

The thing is there are also alot of HIGHLY motivated voters who are not informed or educated enough to make an intelligent choice, see OP for instance. That's the problem with democracy. 95% of people don't know what the hell they are voting for or why.



You can find me on facebook as Markus Van Rijn, if you friend me just mention you're from VGchartz and who you are here.

Auron on 18 October 2008

Even the uneducated are smart enough not to vote for McCain hehehehe



Around the Network
akuma587 on 18 October 2008

So McCain wasn't even able to convince uneducated voters to vote for him and now they are for Obama...I don't really see how you can spin this in a negative way bigjon. Are those people's votes somehow less valuable?



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

akuma587 on 18 October 2008
The_vagabond7 said:
"One of the core problems with the "Rock-The-Vote" campaign, and other campaigns to get unmotivated voters out to the polls, is that most unmotivated voters are not educated or informed well enough to make an intelligent choice."

The thing is there are also alot of HIGHLY motivated voters who are not informed or educated enough to make an intelligent choice, see OP for instance. That's the problem with democracy. 95% of people don't know what the hell they are voting for or why.

Exactly, I mean even people who are really knowledgeable about politics have their biases.  And a lot of people who think they are informed about politics masquerade their bias as fact.

Everyone's vote counts the same, whether they know what they are talking about or not.  That's just how it is, and there is really no way to make the system any more "fair," unless you consider giving certain groups of people less voting power "fair."

 



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

Kratos on 18 October 2008

Does bigjon always act like this around politics. And with: like this. i am talking about: acting like a idiot.



PSN ID: clemens-nl                                                                                                                

The_vagabond7 on 18 October 2008

Yes, Kratos, yes.



You can find me on facebook as Markus Van Rijn, if you friend me just mention you're from VGchartz and who you are here.

Auron on 18 October 2008
Kratos said:
Does bigjon always act like this around politics. And with: like this. i am talking about: acting like a idiot.

 

Never been in a bigjon topic??  He has made tons on politics and this one isn't even as bad as the others.