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czecherychestnut said:
Personally, I really don't think Sony sees being number 1 on the market right now as their priority. Would they like to be? Of course they would, but one thing Howard Stringer has done for the company is given them the right priorities, having the highest market share is great and can give the highest profit and market influence, but there is no point sacrificing profitability to get the highest marketshare. A company with shareholders *has* to have profit as a priority. Do fanboys like ourselves like it? Of course not, most of us see the console 'war' like a footy match, we want our 'side' to win, and in return our 'side' gets the most games.

Howard Stringer said last year that the losses incurred last year from the PS3 were necessary because to have a viable platform you need a customer base of at least 10 milllion. Don't know why 10 million, but I'm sure lots of Sony accountants had a big meeting with lots of biscuits and cake slice and worked out 10 million was the minimum required, probably for sony's 1st party developers to have a large enough base to be profitable with. Now Sony has that, its trying to get a decent return off a poorly planned investment many years ago (talking PS3 only here, PS1 and 2 were very good investments). Do Sony realise they might end up third this generation as a result? Probably, but as Nintendo has shown with Gamecube, being third is no insurmountable obstacle to being profitable, and Stringer has said in the past that Nintendo's business model has turned out better than Sony's previous ones.

And remember that you only have a finite number of price cuts, the cost time/cost sales curve gets very flat at the end, so provided Sony can sell enough games and consoles to keep seller shelf space, and keep 1st, 2nd and 3rd party developers profitable, then there is no rush for them to ride down that cost curve. Yes, having the most console sales usually means the most software sales and hence the most profit, but they are in the situation that they can very easily negate software profitability due to losses earned from console sales. I think Sony has realised that they just need to stay close enough to Xbox 360 sales to ensure third party HD developers keep producing games for PS3, regardless of which is the lead platform (potential customer backlash will ensure any ports are sufficiently similar in quality and experience, even with a 2:1 sales difference, that 33% is a lot of potential sales to negate by producing a piss poor quality port).

I think in the long run, I think Sony's current strategy (the one they have hinted at since the PS3's release) will give them the most return. Most likely not the highest sales, or the most profit of all the console manufacturers, but the most return. When you have rotten apples you change your plan and make cider, you don't just try and sell them at a discount. Wait until your next crop with fresh apples before you have another crack at the fruit market.

 

 Nice read Bro.



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I doubt they'll drop just watch SCE president.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNh6orntm-o



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You can say a lot libellule, it's just what cnet says is more accurate.



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Dont care about price drop I am getting 160GB!



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@starcraft,

Who know what is behind MSnet, oh sorry, cnet.com

"" it's losing miserably in innovative gameplay and online gaming.""

how can you not see they are biaised ...



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libellule said:

@starcraft,

Who know what is behind MSnet, oh sorry, cnet.com

"" it's losing miserably in innovative gameplay and online gaming.""

how can you not see they are biaised ...

LBP isn't out yet, and to this day the PS3 hasn't done one thing that is innovative.

The innovative gameplay comment is directed at Nintendo's waggle, and the innovative online gaming is a reference to Microsoft's foresight in creating a comprehensive, unified online gaming network above and beyond that of their competitors.

 



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starcraft said:
libellule said:

@starcraft,

Who know what is behind MSnet, oh sorry, cnet.com

"" it's losing miserably in innovative gameplay and online gaming.""

how can you not see they are biaised ...

LBP isn't out yet, and to this day the PS3 hasn't done one thing that is innovative.

The innovative gameplay comment is directed at Nintendo's waggle, and the innovative online gaming is a reference to Microsoft's foresight in creating a comprehensive, unified online gaming network above and beyond that of their competitors.

 


but, if I follow u, with LBP and Home out for Xmas, then PS3 will be more innovative than the xbox360 ??? Also, what is shocking in their paper is the "losing miserably" while the PS3 has more exclusive than the xbox360 and Sony has more first party studio than the MS. (Fable2 => PC ? L4D => PC and maybe PS3 Last Remanant => PS3) Too bad, MS, using their full money power, is not able to stole PAL/JP to Sony, too bad. (and also to Ninty obviously)

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libellule said:
starcraft said:
libellule said:

@starcraft,

Who know what is behind MSnet, oh sorry, cnet.com

"" it's losing miserably in innovative gameplay and online gaming.""

how can you not see they are biaised ...

LBP isn't out yet, and to this day the PS3 hasn't done one thing that is innovative.

The innovative gameplay comment is directed at Nintendo's waggle, and the innovative online gaming is a reference to Microsoft's foresight in creating a comprehensive, unified online gaming network above and beyond that of their competitors.


but, if I follow u, with LBP and Home out for Xmas, then PS3 will be more innovative than the xbox360 ??? Also, what is shocking in their paper is the "losing miserably" while the PS3 has more exclusive than the xbox360 and Sony has more first party studio than the MS. (Fable2 => PC ? L4D => PC and maybe PS3 Last Remanant => PS3) Too bad, MS, using their full money power, is not able to stole PAL/JP to Sony, too bad. (and also to Ninty obviously)

LBP is certainly an innovative variation of other mod games.  Home isn't innovative at all.  Given the Xbox 360 has it's innovative online and games like Lips and BK3 leading innovation, I don't think it is in danger of being caught.

As for exclusives?  There are FAR more BETTER titles available on Xbox 360 and not the PS3 than the other way around.

 

 



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Lips is just a singstar and BK3's gonna be bad, well that's what I read on french magazines...



A "Financial Times" analyst who does not take into account Sony's finances before writing an article is an idiot. It is a cost decision, not a market share decision.

5 million consoles this holiday * $100 drop = $500 million in losses for hardware subsidies this quarter.