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Forums - General Discussion - Source of Iraq WMD Intelligence Tells his Story

Ok, you know Santa isn't real yeah? Well it's kinda like your parents, the government. You want to trust them but they lied to you.

Don't believe anything they tell you, especially when "the other guy" is lying/evil/un patriotic. Should you really believe their judgement considering past experience?



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Jackson50 said:
What worries me is that the CIA and the other intelligence agencies have considerably damaged their credibility. How do we know if they have thoroughly vetted their source? Can they be trusted if they base a significant claim on one source? It reminds me of the dramatic shift in our assessment of Iran's ambitions. When the NIE came out in late 2007 that was markedly different from previous estimates, it was clear that it was based mostly on Asgari's information. Yes, Asgari is a more credible source than Alwan, but it still creates doubt.

Fortunately from what I have seen the CIA, the FBI, and the other intelligence branches really feel embarassed that they failed so badly on intelligence, and have taken a lot of steps to change the way they handle intelligence.

And I say that as a person who was incredibly skeptical of these organizations after it turned out that the Iraq intelligence was a bunch of crap.

 



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Bit late now for this kind of revelation



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colonelstubbs said:
Bit late now for this kind of revelation

I agree stubbs...  BTW, here's a pic u guys should see---



halogamer1989, that is sickening, you should remove that



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Cougarman said:
halogamer1989, that is sickening, you should remove that

No.  It is the truth and the truth hurts.  He had chemical weapons that Ali buried in the desert.  America will not stop to give any terrorist nation a second chance and everyone agreed with Bush on this after 9/11.  We are a nation of flip-floppers.

 



halogamer1989 said:
Cougarman said:
halogamer1989, that is sickening, you should remove that

No.  It is the truth and the truth hurts.  He had chemical weapons that Ali buried in the desert.  America will not stop to give any terrorist nation a second chance and everyone agreed with Bush on this after 9/11.  We are a nation of flip-floppers.

 

why didn't the USA do something when he was gasing these people? oh wait they were alies at that time and he got the weapons from USA, but enough about that whats done is done, we could argue about this all day and find no common ground.

 



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