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We now know where some chump change of $440,000 dollars are spent.

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After Bailout, AIG Execs Head to California Resort

Rescued by Taxpayers, $440,000 for Retreat Including "Pedicures, Manicures"

Less than a week after the federal government committed $85 billion to bail out AIG, executives of the giant AIG insurance company headed for a week-long retreat at a luxury resort and spa, the St. Regis Resort in Monarch Beach, California, Congressional investigators revealed today.

"Rooms at this resort can cost over $1,000 a night," Congressman Henry Waxman (D-CA) said this morning as his committee continued its investigation of Wall Street and its CEOs.

AIG documents obtained by Waxman's investigators show the company paid more than $440,000 for the retreat, including nearly $200,000 for rooms, $150,000 for meals and $23,000 in spa charges.

"They're getting their pedicures and their manicures and the American people are paying for that," said Cong. Elijah Cummings (D-MD).

"This unbridled greed," said Cong. Mark Souder (R-IN), "it's an insensitivity to how people are spending our dollars."

Appearing before the committee, Martin Sullivan, the AIG CEO until June, said the company was overwhelmed by a "financial global tsunami," and that "no simple or single cause" was to blame.

"I am heartbroken at what has happened," Sullivan said.

Robert Willumstad, the CEO from June to September, 2008, maintained AIG was a victim of a "crisis in confidence" and an "unprecedented global catastrophe." "Through the first week of September we were confident AIG could weather the crisis," Willumstad testified. He said the federal government offered its $85 million bail out on the afternoon it prepared for bankruptcy. Willumstad said the Federal Reserve demanded he resign, and will turn down his AIG retirement package of several million dollars.

But Congressional investigators raised question of "mismanagement" and whether AIG executives sought to "cook the books" and hide negative information from outside auditors.

On Dec. 5, 2007, Waxman said, CEO Sullivan told investors, "We are confident in our marks and the reasonableness of our valuation methods."

Documents obtained by the committee show that one week earlier, auditors Pricewaterhouse Cooper had "raise their concerns with Mr. Sullivan…informing him that PWC believed that AIG could have a material weakness relating to the risk management of these areas."

In March, 2008, the Office of Thrift Supervision wrote AIG, "We are concerned that the corporate oversight of AIG Financial Products…lacks critical elements of independence, transparency, and granularity."

Asked about the letter by the committee, the SEC's former chief accountant, Lynn Turner, said the letter reflects "a serious problem from the top down of management, that can bring an organization down."

Former AIG CEO Sullivan said accounting rules required AIG to mark down the value of its holdings, even though it had no plans to sell them, the "mark to market" provision.

AIG had to sell at "fire sale prices," he told skeptical members of Congress. "Suddenly a company with a trillion dollars in assets" was in trouble, said Sullivan.

Waxman questioned both former CEOs about a former AIG auditor who claimed he had been blocked from reviewing the books of a London-based division that has since been blamed for a large share of the company's downfall.

Former CEO Willumstad, chairman of the AIG board at the time, said "I honestly don't remember" the concerns raised by the former auditor.

"I find that very disturbing," said Congressman Waxman.

Waxman also said there is evidence the two men changed the bonus schedule once the company began to post losses, so that executives under the "Senior Partners Plan" would continue to make multi-million dollar salaries.

"Mr. Sullivan and the other top executives should have had their bonuses slashed due to poor performance," said Waxman.

Sullivan said it was "substantially reduced" by the board in 2007 due to poor performance.

Sullivan was given a $15 million "golden parachute" payment after being replaced as CEO in June.

 

The St. Regis Resort in Monarch Beach, California, was the site of a week-long luxury retreat for executives of the AIG insurance company, who headed there less than a week after the federal government committed $85 billion to bail out the company.
(ABC News Photo Illustration)



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where did the money lost buy bank, morgage owners, and the 1.4trillion lost by wall street go?



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chapset said:
where did the money lost buy bank, morgage owners, and the 1.4trillion lost by wall street go?


It never existed. It was virtual money, an entry in a computer database. Of course, it was supposedly backed by real-world assets such as houses, but those assets were valued above their real value.

When the value of these assets started dropping to more realistic numbers, that's when the real picture about the viability of these institutions became clear.

There is a lot of funny (virtual) money in the world which will disappear in the weeks, months and years to come. It's a scam, the biggest Ponzi scheme ever, and we're all participating in it directly or indirectly (some of us as scammers, some of us as victims).

 



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It seems they needed another trip to the spa... The Fed has just given them another $37.8 billion loan.

http://money.cnn.com/2008/10/08/news/companies/AIG_loan.ap/index.htm?postversion=2008100817



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I sure wish I had 440k to blow



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NJ5 said:

some of us as scammers, some most of us as victims

 

 



Galaki said:
NJ5 said:

some of us as scammers, some most of us as victims

 

 

 

None of us are Victims. We don't seem to care who we elect to congress anymore, so why should we get anything other then this from them? AIG should never have gotten a dime. I don't care what AIG does with there money, do what you want. Just don't come crying to the american people when you fail.

Garbage in, garbage out.



well its spun like its the executives rolling around in government money after the bailout.

Really, its just a case of bad PR and bad timing.

The vacation was really to a bunch of independent contractors, or Insurance Salesmen. These were the best of the best. Basically it was a reward for these independent contractors who brought in the most business.

Basically it was one of the perks of selling the most policies in the company.

Since its the business of sales, I understand why they (AIG) needed to take care of their guys. It just looked really bad in the midst of the bailout. In reality, they probably should have cancelled the whole vacation and took care of their contractors in some other discreet way.



I wish the government would help pay for me to get a pedicure and manicure. that'd be nice...



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