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Forums - General - Obama up in Virginia and North Carolina

This is pretty surprising to me and it is a pretty rare phenomenon for these states to even consider going blue:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/va/virginia_mccain_vs_obama-551.html

RCP Average 09/17 - 09/29 -- 49.0 46.0 Obama +3.0
InAdv/PollPosition 09/29 - 09/29 436 LV 51 45 Obama +6
FOX News/Rasmussen 09/28 - 09/28 500 LV 50 47 Obama +3
NBC/Mason-Dixon 09/17 - 09/22 625 LV 44 47 McCain +3
ABC News/Wash Post 09/18 - 09/21 698 LV 49 46 Obama +3
SurveyUSA 09/19 - 09/21 716 LV 51 45 Obama +6

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/nc/north_carolina_mccain_vs_obama-334.html

RCP Average 09/13 - 09/28 -- 46.3 47.0 Obama +0.7
PPP (D) 09/27 - 09/28 1041 LV 45 47 Obama +2
Rasmussen 09/23 - 09/23 500 LV 47 49 Obama +2
Civitas/TelOpinion (R) 09/17 - 09/20 600 LV 45 45 Tie
CNN/Time 09/13 - 09/14 910 RV 48 47 McCain +1


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Meh? Daily tracking polls don't mean much until the middle of October. It is interesting to see the "polls" though.



I told you all, Northern Virginia is going to vote very heavily for Obama, and democrats may very well take the state. Conservatives can blame this all on Bush, since before him VA used to be very conservative



There are only a few counties that are blue here in NC. Obama was in Greensboro on Saturday for a rally. I went to it to see what it was like. That might have some effect on the state? I really have no clue.
Guilford (Greensboro, where I go to school) and Mecklenburg (Charlotte) county are the only two that I can think of being being blue off the top of my head.



Hi, this is Vince with Shamwow.

The fact that these two states have gone blue even temporarily could have major repercussions for years. Breaking that barrier even once can change a state's political ideology permanently.



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

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Well, crap :/
I mean, for a Republican like me.



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I like John McCain.

 

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Virginia has not broke Democrat since Goldwater vs Johnson in 64. N. Carolina has not broke Democrat since Carter vs Ford in 76. If either of these states were to break Democrat this time around, it would be a remarkable feat.



quarashi said:
There are only a few counties that are blue here in NC. Obama was in Greensboro on Saturday for a rally. I went to it to see what it was like. That might have some effect on the state? I really have no clue.
Guilford (Greensboro, where I go to school) and Mecklenburg (Charlotte) county are the only two that I can think of being being blue off the top of my head.

Indeed.  Over on the east side where I'm at (Jacksonville/Camp Lejeune) Most people are Republican mainly because of military.  Same thing Fayetteville because of Fort Bragg.  Most people around here are rooting for McCain but it's getting close.  Even my republican father is going back and forth on who to vote for, and he voted Bush in twice.