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akuma587 said:
Libertarian lane can be a pretty confusing place sometimes, but I think both Democrats and especially Republicans could learn from it. The problem is the Religious Right keeps Republicans from going libertarian. They hold this country back so much...

The religious right is a fundamental plank in the GOP patform with lower taxes, family values, etc.  We both believe in small gov't and if you look, the L's were Republicans they just disagreed with Nixon and the gold standard issue, etc.  The neocon thing just inflamed there base and brought on the popularity of Ron Paul.

 



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I was really pissed when Ron Paul and the Kooch both got shafted during all the debates of the primaries. I think if the election was between those 2 (and Barr and Nader on the side), the world would be a better place.

But seriously, I go to school on the tax dollars, so it's against my interests to vote for Ron Paul. And his whole "taxes are unconstitutional" argument is pretty stupid.

I love the guy and I want him to get more media coverage and think he's a great voice for libertarian ideas, but I could never vote for him.



akuma587 said:
Libertarian lane can be a pretty confusing place sometimes, but I think both Democrats and especially Republicans could learn from it. The problem is the Religious Right keeps Republicans from going libertarian. They hold this country back so much...

What about NeoCons? Why don't the dems go libertarian?

It's far more than a small bloc of voters in the religous right. It has to do with the fact that the GOP is a massive entity, and there are a lot of people that would rather keep their job(s) and create more jobs for friends than speak the truth, and reduce the size of the American government.

 



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.

Democrats could essentially steal both "good" positions if they went libertarian, both a liberal social philosophy and a conservative economic policy. I can't say I myself am comfortable with every libertarian position, but there are a lot of good ones I like and I think the Democrats could incorporate into their platform.



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It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

The Ghost of RubangB said:
I was really pissed when Ron Paul and the Kooch both got shafted during all the debates of the primaries. I think if the election was between those 2 (and Barr and Nader on the side), the world would be a better place.

But seriously, I go to school on the tax dollars, so it's against my interests to vote for Ron Paul. And his whole "taxes are unconstitutional" argument is pretty stupid.

I love the guy and I want him to get more media coverage and think he's a great voice for libertarian ideas, but I could never vote for him.

 

I wouldn't say never. Some day you will be working, and realize 3 out of the 5 days you go to work are for the government, so they can pay for people to go to school. When you are on that side of the dollar, you will probably change your mind.

It's easy to be a Democrat when you are taking the money out of my hand, let's see how easy it is when someone reaches into yours.



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akuma587 said:

Democrats could essentially steal both "good" positions if they went libertarian, both a liberal social philosophy and a conservative economic policy. I can't say I myself am comfortable with every libertarian position, but there are a lot of good ones I like and I think the Democrats could incorporate into their platform.

 

Both parties can. Basically, a Libertarian is a Fiscal Republican, and a Democrat when it comes to personal rights.

I myself, am a Libertarian.



halogamer1989 said:

We both believe in small gov't

 

Can you tell me the last year that a Republican run government didn't get bigger?



I hope he runs again in 2012, but by then who knows how f'ed up this place will be.



People continue to claim that Republicans are the fiscally conservative party when all evidence points to the contrary. I don't really understand this...



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

akuma587 said:
People continue to claim that Republicans are the fiscally conservative party when all evidence points to the contrary. I don't really understand this...

 

Ideally the Republicans should be the fiscally responsible party, and this started around the turn of the century.

Then the Neocons appeared.