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Jboy0990 said:

I still don't get it, if GoW3 is more difficult than GoW, an GoW is a 2* then how does rating GoW3 a 2* represent its more difficult. Just because a few people say its a 1* don't mean drop it down. That person could be extremely good at the game. I'm pointing out the obvious point. Both GoW1 and 2 could have been platted on EASY...Thats not the case with GoW3. you HAVE to play Titan... Whether some find it difficult or not its still the fact there is that one trophy that distinguishes the difference in the games trophy difficulty. With both GoW1 and 2 you could plat each in 1 playthrough... GoW3 is designed to play twice(1st to know your enemies to help for 2nd Titan playthrough). If people decide to start on Titan thats fine but you will be overwelmed at the first boss fight for at least 10-15 deaths til you memorize their movements. And if we don't use their rating system to help with ours then what do we do. You even said a few posts ago u looked at ps3trophies.org. I'm sorry but statements are flawed and imo the ratings are too. And I've only seen 1 person who said it should be a 1* and it was by a guy who said he got it in about 9 hours which is highly unlikely. With looking for Godly possessions, horns, eyes, and feathers, along with the challenges i don't see it being beaten in 9 hours, mainly cuz the story is around 6 maybe 7 hours long.. But yet u believe his opinion on a 1* rating? hmm?

And don't think I'm being rude or an ass I just would like for things to be done fairly and as far as ratings are, i dont see that

I'll extract the questions from your post and try and answer each:

"if GoW3 is more difficult than GoW, an GoW is a 2* then how does rating GoW3 a 2* represent its more difficult."

- I said that it was slightly more difficulty according to the users of ps3trophies.org by 0.8 (5.8 for GoW3 vs 5.0 GoW). The 5 star scale used here doesn't reflect small diffierences in difficulty like that (and for good reason). If one game has an average of 5.4 and another game has an average of 5.2, technically the game rated 5.4 is more difficult than the game rated 5.2, but they're both going to show up with the same star rating.


"And if we don't use their rating system to help with ours then what do we do. You even said a few posts ago u looked at ps3trophies.org."

- I typically look to ps3trophies as one source when determining a rating, but it isn't the sole source.


"And I've only seen 1 person who said it should be a 1* and it was by a guy who said he got it in about 9 hours which is highly unlikely. With looking for Godly possessions, horns, eyes, and feathers, along with the challenges i don't see it being beaten in 9 hours, mainly cuz the story is around 6 maybe 7 hours long.. But yet u believe his opinion on a 1* rating? hmm?"

- right, only one person suggested it should be a 1*, just like only one person suggested it be a 3* rating. The others (3 or 4 people) said they think it's 2*. Therefore, the average of those suggestions would be 2*. I'm not picking one person's suggestion and going with that, I look at what everyone is saying.


I'm more than willing to hear out suggestions on how we can improve the current rating system and how we can make it more fair. Please post your suggestions if you have some.



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Arcturus said:

I'll extract the questions from your post and try and answer each:

"if GoW3 is more difficult than GoW, an GoW is a 2* then how does rating GoW3 a 2* represent its more difficult."

- I said that it was slightly more difficulty according to the users of ps3trophies.org by 0.8 (5.8 for GoW3 vs 5.0 GoW). The 5 star scale used here doesn't reflect small diffierences in difficulty like that (and for good reason). If one game has an average of 5.4 and another game has an average of 5.2, technically the game rated 5.4 is more difficult than the game rated 5.2, but they're both going to show up with the same star rating.


"And if we don't use their rating system to help with ours then what do we do. You even said a few posts ago u looked at ps3trophies.org."

- I typically look to ps3trophies as one source when determining a rating, but it isn't the sole source.


"And I've only seen 1 person who said it should be a 1* and it was by a guy who said he got it in about 9 hours which is highly unlikely. With looking for Godly possessions, horns, eyes, and feathers, along with the challenges i don't see it being beaten in 9 hours, mainly cuz the story is around 6 maybe 7 hours long.. But yet u believe his opinion on a 1* rating? hmm?"

- right, only one person suggested it should be a 1*, just like only one person suggested it be a 3* rating. The others (3 or 4 people) said they think it's 2*. Therefore, the average of those suggestions would be 2*. I'm not picking one person's suggestion and going with that, I look at what everyone is saying.


I'm more than willing to hear out suggestions on how we can improve the current rating system and how we can make it more fair. Please post your suggestions if you have some.


Maybe we should just base our rating directly off of ps3trophies.org and then no one can complain that we're too subjective about it.



fadetoone said:
Arcturus said:

I'll extract the questions from your post and try and answer each:

"if GoW3 is more difficult than GoW, an GoW is a 2* then how does rating GoW3 a 2* represent its more difficult."

- I said that it was slightly more difficulty according to the users of ps3trophies.org by 0.8 (5.8 for GoW3 vs 5.0 GoW). The 5 star scale used here doesn't reflect small diffierences in difficulty like that (and for good reason). If one game has an average of 5.4 and another game has an average of 5.2, technically the game rated 5.4 is more difficult than the game rated 5.2, but they're both going to show up with the same star rating.


"And if we don't use their rating system to help with ours then what do we do. You even said a few posts ago u looked at ps3trophies.org."

- I typically look to ps3trophies as one source when determining a rating, but it isn't the sole source.


"And I've only seen 1 person who said it should be a 1* and it was by a guy who said he got it in about 9 hours which is highly unlikely. With looking for Godly possessions, horns, eyes, and feathers, along with the challenges i don't see it being beaten in 9 hours, mainly cuz the story is around 6 maybe 7 hours long.. But yet u believe his opinion on a 1* rating? hmm?"

- right, only one person suggested it should be a 1*, just like only one person suggested it be a 3* rating. The others (3 or 4 people) said they think it's 2*. Therefore, the average of those suggestions would be 2*. I'm not picking one person's suggestion and going with that, I look at what everyone is saying.


I'm more than willing to hear out suggestions on how we can improve the current rating system and how we can make it more fair. Please post your suggestions if you have some.


Maybe we should just base our rating directly off of ps3trophies.org and then no one can complain that we're too subjective about it.

I thought about doing that at one point. The biggest problem with that is the ratings over there are constantly changing as more people vote. Having to update the ratings for each game every week (even when a small change occurs like moving from 5.5 to 5.4) would be a time consuming nightmare. Even if I didn't go and update the numbers each week, I'd be hearing about it here that a rating there has changed and it hasn't been updated here.

Now, if I had a script to automatically grab and update the average ratings for each game... ;)




Jboy0990 said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Jboy0990 said:
I'm gonna just stop posting in here cuz it seems like everything I say everyone overlooks its always HideoK, Kylie, and Ail people listen to so enjoy trophy hunting people

lol...stop being such a drama queen...

But I do agree with you...GoW III probably should be a 3* plat because GoW 1 & 2 are 2* plats. GoW III trophies are pretty much the same + beat the game on a harder difficulty..Going by that I'd say 3*...

I'm sure that if u got ignored all the time u would understand. and btw ur wasting ur time, if 2 people say its a 2* then its a 2* instead of going by the user votes on other sites by people who have the platinum

What happened to not posting anymore?



i sense some tension here...so i am going to post what i think of the matter.

@wagram: dude, there is no way in hell GOWIII is a 1*, and if you prove to me that you beat it in 9 hours, i will believe you, but for now, i doubt anyone does.

@jboy: dude, Arcturus is looking at your argument, but here on the league he cant make whole one star differences when a game is just a little harder than the game before it, you seem to have a grudge or something, but arcturus brings us the league every week. If he wants to put GOWIII a 5star, he can do what he wants.

@kylie: i wouldnt say FFXIII is as easy as Bad company 2, i mean, FFXIII just takes way longer and the single player trophies in bad company are a joke. Yeah, the demolition kills are to be done by luck, but its better luck than grinding for hours imo...and gratz on the plat, good luck with FFXIII

@fadetoone: love the avatar...

@arcturus, thanks for bringing the update, keep it up



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Man, you guys are really slow on your FFXIII Platinum Trophies.

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Wagram said:
Jboy0990 said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Jboy0990 said:
I'm gonna just stop posting in here cuz it seems like everything I say everyone overlooks its always HideoK, Kylie, and Ail people listen to so enjoy trophy hunting people

lol...stop being such a drama queen...

But I do agree with you...GoW III probably should be a 3* plat because GoW 1 & 2 are 2* plats. GoW III trophies are pretty much the same + beat the game on a harder difficulty..Going by that I'd say 3*...

I'm sure that if u got ignored all the time u would understand. and btw ur wasting ur time, if 2 people say its a 2* then its a 2* instead of going by the user votes on other sites by people who have the platinum

What happened to not posting anymore?

What happened to noboy talking to u? btw how is 3-19-10 to 3-21-10, 9 hours?

Failed

/smh

Now... when I ask for u to talk to me, or when i ask u a question, i would like for u to talk to me

@Radiantshadow

I know he is, hence the "I'm not trying to be rude", but you can't just rate stuff from what some people say. Especially when only 4 people here have the platinum. As i said before, The ratings on ps3trophies.org are from people who have, or supposed to have, the platinum, therefore, i believe those ratings should count. Instead of going by what some people, who may not even have the plat, say. I say use the rating systems from both ps3trophies.org and ps3trophies.com. As I said before they go on a scale from 10 so divide by 2. I cannot change the league, this is Arcturus's league but I can express my opinion



Jboy0990 said:
Wagram said:
Jboy0990 said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Jboy0990 said:
I'm gonna just stop posting in here cuz it seems like everything I say everyone overlooks its always HideoK, Kylie, and Ail people listen to so enjoy trophy hunting people

lol...stop being such a drama queen...

But I do agree with you...GoW III probably should be a 3* plat because GoW 1 & 2 are 2* plats. GoW III trophies are pretty much the same + beat the game on a harder difficulty..Going by that I'd say 3*...

I'm sure that if u got ignored all the time u would understand. and btw ur wasting ur time, if 2 people say its a 2* then its a 2* instead of going by the user votes on other sites by people who have the platinum

What happened to not posting anymore?

What happened to noboy talking to u? btw how is 3-19-10 to 3-21-10, 9 hours?

Failed

/smh

Now... when I ask for u to talk to me, or when i ask u a question, i would like for u to talk to me

@Radiantshadow

I know he is, hence the "I'm not trying to be rude", but you can't just rate stuff from what some people say. Especially when only 4 people here have the platinum. As i said before, The ratings on ps3trophies.org are from people who have, or supposed to have, the platinum, therefore, i believe those ratings should count. Instead of going by what some people, who may not even have the plat, say. I say use the rating systems from both ps3trophies.org and ps3trophies.com. As I said before they go on a scale from 10 so divide by 2. I cannot change the league, this is Arcturus's league but I can express my opinion

That is the time that I started the game to the time I ended. Do you seriously think I played the game for over 2 days straight?



Platinum difficulty for GoW III has a chance of changing in the future jboy....just calm down dude
http://www.ps3trophies.org/forum/god-war-iii/42519-platinum-difficulty-rating.html
This poll isn't closed yet...

ps3trophies.com says 6/10 too...



Garamond said:
Man, you guys are really slow on your FFXIII Platinum Trophies.

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too many other games =p