Kasz216 said: No one has free universal checkups for people over 40? Shoudln't that be part of universal healthcare? I mean preventitive healthcare is just cost effective. Free Checkups should be common sense.

 

 Well, basically, as it stands, you can only really go to a GP if you feel you have something wrong with you, and the examine for free (at point of sale).

This means that you can go and get a checkup for the sake of having a checkup just in case anything is wrong with you.

SamuelRSmith said: Kasz216 said: No one has free universal checkups for people over 40? Shoudln't that be part of universal healthcare? I mean preventitive healthcare is just cost effective. Free Checkups should be common sense.    Well, basically, as it stands, you can only really go to a GP if you feel you have something wrong with you, and the examine for free (at point of sale). This means that you can go and get a checkup for the sake of having a checkup just in case anything is wrong with you.

Which is really the way to do things... at least somewhat right?  I mean isn't it advised to have like... a checkup every 6th months or so even if you feel fine?

 

Kasz216 said: SamuelRSmith said: Kasz216 said: No one has free universal checkups for people over 40? Shoudln't that be part of universal healthcare? I mean preventitive healthcare is just cost effective. Free Checkups should be common sense.    Well, basically, as it stands, you can only really go to a GP if you feel you have something wrong with you, and the examine for free (at point of sale). This means that you can go and get a checkup for the sake of having a checkup just in case anything is wrong with you. Which is really the way to do things... at least somewhat right?  I mean isn't it advised to have like... a checkup every 6th months or so even if you feel fine?

 

 Well, personally, I have never heard that recommendation in my life, though that does make sense.

As it stands, you can currently get check ups for specific things, like men often go in for prostate examinations, and women go in for smears, as well as other cancer checkups, and such. But these universal checkups, so they check everything in one hit. Before, they were only really offered to the elderly, long-term-ill, and babies/toddlers. Now, it's being expanded to all over-40s, over the years I see this age dropping fairly rapidly perhaps being universal to all within the next decade.

I don't know what he means with "universal" checkup. But in Germany everyone over a certain age is almost required to do checkups else he will have to pay higher healthcare bills. So I call this bullshit.

(Otherwise our healthcare system sucks though)

Kyros said: And so in April a Labour Britain will become the first country in the whole world to offer free universal check ups for everyone over 40 I don't know what he means with "universal" checkup. But in Germany everyone over a certain age is almost required to do checkups else he will have to pay higher healthcare bills. So I call this bullshit. (Otherwise our healthcare system sucks though)

 

 I don't know how extensive the checkups are in Germany, but this one we're introducing here will be like Dr. Hibberts HMO (Hibbert's Money-Making Organisation) where they will examine you from head to toe, and make sure that everything is absolutely healthy.

There could just be one difference inbetween the two systems, but he has to be legitmate in what he's saying, or our media will pick up on it (and they do pick up on things like this) and hound him to the ground.

Isn't that pretty stupid? I think I remember a scientist who said that if you make an examination like this you will ALWAYS find something. And most of the time "fixing" it is worse then letting it be. Because of that screening can be bad and good and it is normally only done for specific affliction where it has been shown to lower the overall risk of a serious disease.

For example it has been shown in studies that screening for breast cancer esp. for women with familiar risks is lowering death rates but I think this isn't even that clear anymore for colonic cancer and for other afflictions the risks that are included in the screening process itself, the diagnosis (for example biopsy) and the therapy for something that has not yet had any effect on the live of the person is worse than the risk of the affliction itself.