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Stats87 on 22 September 2008
Riachu said:
forevercloud3000 said:
@SmokedHostage
You dont know what you are talking about. Your statement on FFVII sold on shock value is iladvised and down right rediculous.

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Final Fantasy is still very much important. Just not as important as it once was. Their quality in games has declined over the years. Not saying the FF franchise has been bad but the othergames they make have been meh. FFXII was not as good as X and they have failed to reach FFVII level since then. Not to mention the decision to go multiplat makes them even less significant this gen. Exclusives get a lot of screen time in a video gamer's heart. MPs are a dime a dozen so it will no longer have that kind of effect on many.

Who knows, maybe FFXIII will change this. The first of the gen usually does do the best. It is the freshest idea while the laters follow. Versus don't look to shaby tho(better to me).

The reason why FF is going multiplatform is because the PS3 isn't doing as well as expected.  Also, exclusives are very cost prohibitive for the most part except for stuff like MGS4 since MGS is an established series with widespread acclaim and is hugely popular.

 

 

Which is why I think the exclusivity of FF Versus XIII will depend on the PS3/360 sales of FFXIII and the potential PS3 install base by the time Versus comes out.

If the PS3 version outsells the 360 version, as an example, say 5M PS3 to 2M 360 (not saying this will happen and it very likely won't) then I think Versus will stay exclusive. But if the versions are 4M PS3 and 3M 360, Versus will likely go Multi. (unless somehow Nomura holds more clout then we all think and somehow gets it to remain PS3 only)



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Stats87 on 22 September 2008
Riachu said:
Stats87 said:
kergeten said:
The OP is full of it, dismal sales and reviews?Most developers would kill to get their sales and reviews, you should see the shit that comes out of the western developer grinder, there are only a handful of good western RPGs, compared to dozens if not hundreds of JRPG's.

 

I love how she says Western Games are taking off, but yet no console Western RPG has surpassed the "dismal" sales of FFXII. Not to mention there are only a small handful of Western Games from any genre that have sold more then FFXII.

Most of those games that have outsold FFXII are stuff like Halo, Guitar Hero, and GTA.  The most popular JRPG series actually does better than the most popular WRPG series.

 

Yup, those are the exact games I was thinking of, and Guitar Hero is spread over multiple platforms.

What is the highest selling console WRPG? Fable? Which I think is around 2.5M - 3M

Although it is likely that Fable 2 will become the top selling WRPG...unless of course we count Fallout 3. Am I missing any others?



Paul_Warren on 22 September 2008

According to IGN, Final Fantasy XII came out on October 31, 2006 in the US. And they gave it a review score of 9.5 which was the same as their review scores for Final Fantasy VII, X, and X-2. And that score is higher than the scores for Dragon Warrior VIII, Final Fantasy VIII, Final Fantasy IX, the various versions of Final Fantasy XI, Final Fantasy Origins, Final Fantasy Anthology, and Final Fantasy Chronicles. It was also much higher than the score for any rpg released on any system in the past couple of years.

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/741/741991p1.html

They also awarded FFXII PS2 Game of the Year 2006:
http://bestof.ign.com/2006/ps2/39.html

Play Magazine gave Final Fantasy XII a 10 and listed it as one of the top five rpgs ever made. I believe it was higher than number five, but I don't remember how much higher. I don't think it was number one but it could have been two or three. And they have been covering gaming since the days of DieHard Gamefan in the nineteen nineties, in my opinion, the Greatest American Videogame Magazine of All Time.

http://www.playmagazine.com/index.php?fuseaction=SiteMain.showGamePage&Game_ID=407

These facts aside, Final Fantasy is still very much a relevant series as the fact that it has generated as much or more discussion than any other game featured at E3 just because it was announced that it was going to be on the 360 as well as PS3 demonstrate.

And Square-Enix is still very much a relevant company. The most eagerly awaited games coming to the DS, the most popular system in the world at this moment in time, have all been Square-Enix games several of which have already received good to excellent review scores including Final Fantasy VII: Crisis Core on PSP in that group as well. And the one game I always see Wii and PS3 fans fighting over which console it should come to is Kingdom Hearts 3, and it is a Square-Enix game.



My most anticipated games:  Whatever Hideo Kojima is going to do next, Final Fantasy XIII, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, Gran Turismo 5, Alan Wake, Wii Sports Resort.  Cave Story Wiiware.

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Dno on 22 September 2008
Paul_Warren said:
According to IGN, Final Fantasy XII came out on October 31, 2006 in the US. And they gave it a review score of 9.5 which was the same as their review scores for Final Fantasy VII, X, and X-2. And that score is higher than the scores for Dragon Warrior VIII, Final Fantasy VIII, Final Fantasy IX, the various versions of Final Fantasy XI, Final Fantasy Origins, Final Fantasy Anthology, and Final Fantasy Chronicles. It was also much higher than the score for any rpg released on any system in the past couple of years.

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/741/741991p1.html

They also awarded FFXII PS2 Game of the Year 2006:
http://bestof.ign.com/2006/ps2/39.html

Play Magazine gave Final Fantasy XII a 10 and listed it as one of the top five rpgs ever made. I believe it was higher than number five, but I don't remember how much higher. I don't think it was number one but it could have been two or three. And they have been covering gaming since the days of DieHard Gamefan in the nineteen nineties, in my opinion, the Greatest American Videogame Magazine of All Time.

http://www.playmagazine.com/index.php?fuseaction=SiteMain.showGamePage&Game_ID=407

These facts aside, Final Fantasy is still very much a relevant series as the fact that it has generated as much or more discussion than any other game featured at E3 just because it was announced that it was going to be on the 360 as well as PS3 demonstrate.

And Square-Enix is still very much a relevant company. The most eagerly awaited games coming to the DS, the most popular system in the world at this moment in time, have all been Square-Enix games several of which have already received good to excellent review scores including Final Fantasy VII: Crisis Core on PSP in that group as well. And the one game I always see Wii and PS3 fans fighting over which console it should come to is Kingdom Hearts 3, and it is a Square-Enix game.

 

 wow well said i must say.

And lol @ OP.



colonelstubbs on 22 September 2008

Of course Final Fantasy is important. Name another RPG series that achieves such immense sales



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vdoesntforgive on 22 September 2008

I thought Final Fantasy XII was pretty good.



 

Shadowblind on 22 September 2008

Yes, Final Fantasy is still important. But its overrated, at least compared to other JRPGs like Persona, Dark Cloud, and Tales.

Still pretty fun. Just not as much fun.



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Riachu on 22 September 2008
colonelstubbs said:
Of course Final Fantasy is important. Name another RPG series that achieves such immense sales

Kingdom Hearts and Dragon Quest(in Japan mostly) and if you want to include WRPGs, Elder Scrolls and Fable as well

 



 

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vdoesntforgive on 22 September 2008
Shadowblind said:

Yes, Final Fantasy is still important. But its overrated, at least compared to other JRPGs like Persona, Dark Cloud, and Tales.

Still pretty fun. Just not as much fun.

 

God I hope you mean Dark Chronicles.

Because Dark cloud in comparison even a mediocre FF game is like night and day.



 

NFGBlinkAC on 22 September 2008

FF is important no matter what you think. FFVII set the standards in RPG's, and it most games. FFVI set standards for the way story's are now usually presented instead of "Oh, go do this for this item over and over again to progress".

IMO, FFXIII could set the standards the way games with a similar combat system, turn based, atb, etc, should be presented in. I think i'm more excited to see the way FFXIII's combat is presented than the actual story lol