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If the fundies were right, I don't believe there would be a heaven. I couldn't possibly live happily in paradise for all eternity with the knowledge that the vast majority of humans are being tortured for eternity. At any given second almost everybody I've ever known or loved or respected at all would be enduring unlimited pain. I would not be happy. I don't think the heaven of the fundies is possible. Seems like 2 flavors of hell to me.

So I would oppose him.



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The_vagabond7 said:
Yes, I would oppose him. The god that the fundies propose is a monster, and a disgusting creature so far removed from sane morality that siding with him would seem to be a far more wicked act that opposing him. Anybody willing to torture billions for all eternity is not someone I would want to call master. For the ones that don't believe in hell, but rather believe he's going to just kill everyone that disagrees with a specific set of guidelines and philosophies (there are only a couple such as Jehovah's witness' that go by this belief), I still wouldn't be willing to serve someone willing to kill 99.9% of the earth's population to benefit the remaining .1%.

Regardless of what the punishment is I couldn't serve such a monster.

What he said.

 



The Ghost of RubangB said:
If the fundies were right, I don't believe there would be a heaven. I couldn't possibly live happily in paradise for all eternity with the knowledge that the vast majority of humans are being tortured for eternity. At any given second almost everybody I've ever known or loved or respected at all would be enduring unlimited pain. I would not be happy. I don't think the heaven of the fundies is possible. Seems like 2 flavors of hell to me.

So I would oppose him.

 

You should read "The Divine Comedy" too.



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pearljammer said:
The_vagabond7 said:
Yes, I would oppose him. The god that the fundies propose is a monster, and a disgusting creature so far removed from sane morality that siding with him would seem to be a far more wicked act that opposing him. Anybody willing to torture billions for all eternity is not someone I would want to call master. For the ones that don't believe in hell, but rather believe he's going to just kill everyone that disagrees with a specific set of guidelines and philosophies (there are only a couple such as Jehovah's witness' that go by this belief), I still wouldn't be willing to serve someone willing to kill 99.9% of the earth's population to benefit the remaining .1%.

Regardless of what the punishment is I couldn't serve such a monster.

What he said.

 

You are doomed to watch reruns of all of Paris Hilton's movies for eternity!

 



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Depends if we are talking New Testament or Old Testament. I would not like to be a worshipper of the god from the OT as that god is pretty damned barbaric. I would be far more inclined to worship to god shown in the NT as his message and methods are very different.

Of course this is entirely hypothetical as nobody has provided any proof of the existence of god.

@Lem. Does that include 'A night in Paris'?



I would oppose him. For the same reasons vagabond explained.



The_vagabond7 said:
Yes, I would oppose him. The god that the fundies propose is a monster, and a disgusting creature so far removed from sane morality that siding with him would seem to be a far more wicked act that opposing him. Anybody willing to torture billions for all eternity is not someone I would want to call master. For the ones that don't believe in hell, but rather believe he's going to just kill everyone that disagrees with a specific set of guidelines and philosophies (there are only a couple such as Jehovah's witness' that go by this belief), I still wouldn't be willing to serve someone willing to kill 99.9% of the earth's population to benefit the remaining .1%.

Regardless of what the punishment is I couldn't serve such a monster.

 

This. In addition to the fact that there is an inexcuseable amount of suffering in this world already. I'm at the point where I can't differentiate the fundamentalist God and the fundamentalist Satan. If their God is omnipotent and runs the world, why is he seemingly letting Satan run loose and wreck havoc all over the planet? Either God is just fine with that, or he IS Satan. Whatever the reason, there's no real excuse for making people suffer in their Earthly lives short of something he said being a blatant lie. Why is he making people starve or suffer from disease all over the world? Is he using us as some kind of experiment?

So my answer is no. Unless this God forced my mind into submitting to him using his awesome powers, I'd just be glad there's an actual, real THING that I can blame for all the shit that happens here on Earth.



Rath said:


1. Of course this is entirely hypothetical as nobody has provided any proof of the existence of god.

2. @Lem. Does that include 'A night in Paris'?

Firstly, I giggled.

Secondly,

Of course.



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Lem_Nx said:
pearljammer said:
The_vagabond7 said:
Yes, I would oppose him. The god that the fundies propose is a monster, and a disgusting creature so far removed from sane morality that siding with him would seem to be a far more wicked act that opposing him. Anybody willing to torture billions for all eternity is not someone I would want to call master. For the ones that don't believe in hell, but rather believe he's going to just kill everyone that disagrees with a specific set of guidelines and philosophies (there are only a couple such as Jehovah's witness' that go by this belief), I still wouldn't be willing to serve someone willing to kill 99.9% of the earth's population to benefit the remaining .1%.

Regardless of what the punishment is I couldn't serve such a monster.

What he said.

 

You are doomed to watch reruns of all of Paris Hilton's movies for eternity!

 

As bad as that sounds, wouldn't it be much more terrible if there were seperate hells for each individual person, specifically designed to maximize the, uh... tortureness.

My own personal hell would be having to attend a neverending Nickelback concert, where the only food available is fishsticks and nobody had shoes, socks or deodorant.

Conversely, my heaven would be a neverending Pearl Jam concert where everyone was wearing appropriate footware, had plenty to eat, excluding fish, and no one forgot to wear deodorant.

edit: My apologies to the OP for taking this further off topic than necessary.