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I really don't think this is a good idea. I lean left (but just slightly) on economic issues, but this just sounds bad all around. The following months are going to be very strange and scary.



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I think we can all agree that there was a free market failure (illegal and unscrupulous lending activities) and a governmental failure (Fed keeping interests rates too low for too long rather than just fighting inflation, in addition to ludicrous deficit spending which affected interest rates and the strength of the U.S. dollar).



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akuma587 said:
I think we can all agree that there was a free market failure (illegal and unscrupulous lending activities) and a governmental failure (Fed keeping interests rates too low for too long rather than just fighting inflation, in addition to ludicrous deficit spending which affected interest rates and the strength of the U.S. dollar).

 

Agreed. Sadly though, this bailout is needed. I hate it, it sucks, and its horrrid, but without it, the shit hits the fan even worse. We will be hit with the bill, I grant you, but we'd be hit even harder if not for it. I doubt there will be any tax lowering now, and in fact I support raising taxes with 700 billion more now on the books. this is a bad situation, but atm its not the end of capitalism. I think we missed that.



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loy310 said:
End game of Capitalism, and if I recall my American History lessons, this is what happened before the Great Depression (Banks failing, businesses going under, and people losing huge amounts of property ). All empires and establishments/Governments fall eventually and history can prove that. Think of these days as the last days of Western global domination. Thank you George W Bush.

I'm thinking this may have been the plan all along...

Paulson was the CEO of Goldman Sachs. Now that he's in the government, he suddenly pursues an initiative which will grant him unlimited power to give away money to banks... Not even the Supreme Court can challenge this.

Hello???

 

I'm hoping that this has been planned all along - probably since the late 80s.

If not, then this move will not help but make things a lot worse.

And if it was planned then it was pure greed of capitalism.  The Fed just wants to make money and they don't care who gets hurt along the way.

maybe there is a thing called "black box" filled with trillions of dollars.

 

 



I wonder how many 10x10 rooms the amount of $20 bills it would take to equal our national debt would fill...



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there is a benefit to this plan. When the market is balanced the USA can sell what they bought for profit.



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ssj12 said:
there is a benefit to this plan. When the market is balanced the USA can sell what they bought for profit.

 

Government and Profit don't belong in the same sentence. Just saying...



ssj12 said:
there is a benefit to this plan. When the market is balanced the USA can sell what they bought for profit.

Government can't make profit, but the Fed. Reserve can and I think they will.

 



Galaki said:
ssj12 said:
there is a benefit to this plan. When the market is balanced the USA can sell what they bought for profit.

 

Government and Profit don't belong in the same sentence. Just saying...

 

actually the USA has sold government substitutes or property for profit plenty of times.



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ssj12 said:
Galaki said:
ssj12 said:
there is a benefit to this plan. When the market is balanced the USA can sell what they bought for profit.

 

Government and Profit don't belong in the same sentence. Just saying...

 

actually the USA has sold government substitutes or property for profit plenty of times.

 

That's "profit", not profit.