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Forums - General - The Global Food Crisis. Why is noone talking about it?

This is a more dangerous threat the world has to face... and nobody is talking about it.

It's not even an Issue in the presidential races.  Not even a small issue!

Nobody seems to care.

I mean... why?  This is stuff that effects EVERYBODY.

I mean, things like the recent Economy problems and the War in Iraq are small trifles compared to the global food crisis.



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Because it's depressing?

 



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NJ5 said:
Because it's fucking depressing?


So is global warming, the economy, the war in Iraq....

Those get talked about all the time.

Things like countries ethanol stances make things like Iraq and the Economy look like a joke.  Espiecally the US's since cron based Ethanol doesn't even do anything for the enviroment.

Also there are fairly easy steps the everyday citizen can take.

I mean, it takes 10 times the vegetables to make the same amount of beef.

Even if someone went one day they normally wouldn't without eating meat and going vegetarian it'd be a big deal.



I suspect that it doesn't get talked about because no one has a sound byte solution to it, and the problem doesn't provide a political advantage for anyone.

Realistically, many people in the western world don't care because they won't feel the hunger pains themself and the consequences of having hundreds of millions of starving people are not obviously appearant. People don't necessarily consider the health (starving people are far more likely to carry diseases which can mutate and threaten everyone) and geopolitical consequences (starving people will follow ANYONE who promises food) from having a large population of starving people.



No, its because journalism creates the agenda. That old story about food supply problems is old, hence no interest. Where's Tibet? Where's China's earthquake? Where's aids in africa? It's not of interest, well according to the people that tell you what to think



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

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I don't eat much, so I don't talk about it.



People like meat, true u could eat less but don't tell someone what to do. Do you really think, for eg. America, would listen to requests such as dont eat meat, dont buy useless shit or don't buy a gas guzzler?
No, i would naturally respond to that by saying, dont tell me what to do, ill do what i want.



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

HappySqurriel said:

I suspect that it doesn't get talked about because no one has a sound byte solution to it, and the problem doesn't provide a political advantage for anyone.

Realistically, many people in the western world don't care because they won't feel the hunger pains themself and the consequences of having hundreds of millions of starving people are not obviously appearant. People don't necessarily consider the health (starving people are far more likely to carry diseases which can mutate and threaten everyone) and geopolitical consequences (starving people will follow ANYONE who promises food) from having a large population of starving people.

I dunno.  At worst McCain could use it to attack Barak Obama's energy policy which calls for greatly encreased ethanol.  I mean considering all the attack adds, most of which misleading... it'd be nice if he could use a factual hard hitting one.

I mean, his plans to raise ethanol, set over starving people, followed by the UN experts calling biofuel use criminal.... tied in with ethanol lobbies being biggest in Illnois.

I guess the "nobody caring" part is a point though.  Attack ads don't work if nobody cares about what they are attacking on.

I was really hoping something would get Obama to change his stance on this though.  There are other forms of fuel that could be used in the short term to get off foreign oil then ones that cause people to starve.



megaman79 said:
People like meat, true u could eat less but don't tell someone what to do. Do you really think, for eg. America, would listen to requests such as dont eat meat, dont buy useless shit or don't buy a gas guzzler?
No, i would naturally respond to that by saying, dont tell me what to do, ill do what i want.

I actually stopped eating meat 3 days a week after reading about how it could help the global food crisis.  A lot of people in the US are a lot more self sacrificing then you want to give credit too.

Who's telling people anyway?  It's about informing people. 

I think a lot of people would be willing to give up meat one day a week so that another person could eat for an entire week. (plus 2 days.)

and getting rid of Ethanol subsidaries and other things like that would help a lot.

 



Kasz216 said:
NJ5 said:
Because it's fucking depressing?


So is global warming, the economy, the war in Iraq....

Those get talked about all the time.

Things like countries ethanol stances make things like Iraq and the Economy look like a joke.  Espiecally the US's since cron based Ethanol doesn't even do anything for the enviroment.

Also there are fairly easy steps the everyday citizen can take.

I mean, it takes 10 times the vegetables to make the same amount of beef.

Even if someone went one day they normally wouldn't without eating meat and going vegetarian it'd be a big deal.

Those other things are not as depressing as the food crisis, in my opinion. War is cool, stuff blowing up and all (it appeals to some level of our psyche). Watching the economy burn is also pretty interesting in some ways. Global warming also has some fun aspects. On the other hand, talking about starving people provides no entertainment whatsoever.

Regarding what you wrote about meat, I think it would be even better to just implement population control in some way. Saving food will only lead to more population, and potentially more suffering in the long term. I'm all for personal freedom, but if you don't have the money to feed your kids properly you should be forbidden from having any more kids, with some proper penalties for transgression.

 



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