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BenKenobi88 said:
segajon said:
Obama, no more rich white dudes 4 prez,lol

Well thanks for being racist.  It's not like Obama's poor...

Isn't Obama half white too? Wasn't he raised mostly by his white grandparents? Is there really any question of his wealth? I'm addressing this towards Segajon by the way, not you Ben.

 



 

 

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MontanaHatchet said:
BenKenobi88 said:
segajon said:
Obama, no more rich white dudes 4 prez,lol

Well thanks for being racist.  It's not like Obama's poor...

Isn't Obama half white too? Wasn't he raised mostly by his white grandparents? Is there really any question of his wealth? I'm addressing this towards Segajon by the way, not you Ben.

 

Not only is he half white but he's also related to two very prominent men in the Bush Whitehouse....

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10172007/news/regionalnews/dissing_cousins__obama__cheney.htm

...Even if Obama wins the Bush Dynsasty continues!

All the way through George Bush 1 actually, i'm pretty sure Clinton is related to these guys too.  Which would mean Jimmy Carter was too....

But not Reagan.



MontanaHatchet said:
bigjon said:
Wow. I am suprised there are so many people voting for McCain here. The general consesus is no body hates McCain, but most don't love him. That would be because he is a moderate which means he is not polarizing (like Bush).

Obama on the other hand is the most Liberal senator in the Senate, therefor conservatives are more appaulled by him. Conservatives would not like Hilary, but they could swallow it... There is no way conservatives could swallow Obama. Not with his radical views on the Economy and Abortion and Education and Healthcare and the such.

I would believe that if there was actually evidence to support that claim. Not that he's a radical, but that he scares away conservative voters. He's doing very well in some red states.

Anyways, the world economy is in shambles. Obama's popularity worldwide should at least assist in the U.S. working with countries worldwide, whether with trading or providing goods or aid. I'm not worried about Obama's energy policies since he'll likely change his mind when everyone realizes that ethanol is a terrible idea (if they haven't already).

 

 jee Montanta, I guess if you insist...

http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/

I hope the National Journal is good enough.... I learned my lesson about the NT Post... I just google Most Liberal Senators and this is the first to pop up....

Yes Obama is popular WW, but would you believe me if I told you McCain is actually pretty popular. I think it is more of a respect thing, but a WHOLE heck better than Bush. But yes I would say Obama is more popular in Europe than McCain... Heck i would not be suprised if he was more popular in Europe than he is in the USA. Not saying he is, just would not suprise me. Obama's views are actually somewhat mainstream in Europe. They are radical in the USA, that is why he does not go into too much detail. Thus the reason he said that If Abortion is right or wrong is above his paygrade. Obama is so liberal he would not got elected if he did not have such a good speaking presence (and weak opponent for IL senate- Allan Keyes... enough said)



End of 2009 Predictions (Set, January 1st 2009)

Wii- 72 million   3rd Year Peak, better slate of releases

360- 37 million   Should trend down slightly after 3rd year peak

PS3- 29 million  Sales should pick up next year, 3rd year peak and price cut

I believe the National Journal only samples 100 votes to determine its rankings. It is not the most accurate in determining the ideological strength of senators. As a prospective political scientist, let me point you in the direction of a study that better represents the ideological strength of senators. Obama was not the most liberal senator in 2007. He was tied with Biden as the 10th most liberal senator.

http://voteview.com/sen110.htm



Jackson50 said:
I believe the National Journal only samples 100 votes to determine its rankings. It is not the most accurate in determining the ideological strength of senators. As a prospective political scientist, let me point you in the direction of a study that better represents the ideological strength of senators. Obama was not the most liberal senator in 2007. He was tied with Biden as the 10th most liberal senator.

http://voteview.com/sen110.htm

 

 he was 10th in 2006.

Voted the "liberal way" 66 out of 67 times in 07.



End of 2009 Predictions (Set, January 1st 2009)

Wii- 72 million   3rd Year Peak, better slate of releases

360- 37 million   Should trend down slightly after 3rd year peak

PS3- 29 million  Sales should pick up next year, 3rd year peak and price cut

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None...I can't vote.

However, if I could vote it would have been Ron Paul but his gone.




bigjon said:
Jackson50 said:
I believe the National Journal only samples 100 votes to determine its rankings. It is not the most accurate in determining the ideological strength of senators. As a prospective political scientist, let me point you in the direction of a study that better represents the ideological strength of senators. Obama was not the most liberal senator in 2007. He was tied with Biden as the 10th most liberal senator.

http://voteview.com/sen110.htm

 

 he was 10th in 2006.

Voted the "liberal way" 66 out of 67 times in 07.

In years when he casted many votes, he was less liberal. I think it a reasonable assumption that the same thing would have happened in 2007. If you look at the entire 110th Senate, Obama was tied with Biden as the 10th most liberal senator. To say that Obama was more liberal than Feingold or Sanders is silly. 



^Obama has some pretty exteme views on Abortion and the Economy and such. He also has voted 97% of the time with his party... I think he is up there with Boxer, Feingold, and the likes... he is definitly on the fringe.

Mccain is about a Centrist as you can be. That is why he was having problems with the base before he picked Palin. You see on a of 1-10 with 1 being conservative and 10 being liberal Mccain would be a 5, Lieberman would be a 6, and Obama would be a 9.5.... Bush would be a 1.5 and Palin would be a 2. John Lennon would be a 10, lol.



End of 2009 Predictions (Set, January 1st 2009)

Wii- 72 million   3rd Year Peak, better slate of releases

360- 37 million   Should trend down slightly after 3rd year peak

PS3- 29 million  Sales should pick up next year, 3rd year peak and price cut

bigjon said:
^Obama has some pretty exteme views on Abortion and the Economy and such. He also has voted 97% of the time with his party... I think he is up there with Boxer, Feingold, and the likes... he is definitly on the fringe.

Mccain is about a Centrist as you can be. That is why he was having problems with the base before he picked Palin. You see on a of 1-10 with 1 being conservative and 10 being liberal Mccain would be a 5, Lieberman would be a 6, and Obama would be a 9.5.... Bush would be a 1.5 and Palin would be a 2. John Lennon would be a 10, lol.

What are his extreme views on abortion?  Last I checked he passed some law preventing partial birth abortions, or didn't but was for some law that prevented them.

 



Paris hilton/Britney spears =O

just joking.

i think obama but right now i am not in the US and won't be by the time of the elections.