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akuma587 said:

Oh Mr. Bubbles...your ignorance of everything that your own candidate stands for is very disheartening...

 

 

Since im not United Statesian he cant actually be my candidate.   imquite happy with Bev Oda and Stephen Harper though and know theyll represent me well in their majority government. 

additionally,  ill be just fine amusing myself knowing what obamas doing is exactly what he stands for.  taking lots of money from everyone and wasting it all.



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MrBubbles said:
fkusumot said:
MrBubbles said:
...i dont get it...are you upset he has the funds to challenge obama now ?

You didn't follow the last two presidential elections and what McCain said about the "Iron Triangle"? Have you ever heard of the McCain-Feingold Law? Are you upset that he's found loopholes in the law that he sponsored and fought hard to get enacted? Are you accusing McCain of being a hypocrite?

 

no.  ill assume thats the one about the funding..?   nope. doesnt appear that way.

tbh...im just amused.  it was set up to make it fair...if obama wants to play without those rules, then i dont really see an issue with them helping mccain.  otherwise obama would simply be buying the election.

 

Except Obama isn't taking taxpayer money to fund his campaign. McCain is.



I mean the political fundraising system in our country is hopelessly broken, but it is completely hypocritical to say you are not taking a part of that when you obviously are, and taking taxpayer money in the process.

This probably more than anything has made me think less of John McCain.



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akuma587 said:
MrBubbles said:
...i dont get it...are you upset he has the funds to challenge obama now ?

I'm not upset, I just find it hypocritical of McCain to do this while shouting out that he stands by public financing.

The way I understand it, Obama was heavily against private-sector campaign pork-barrelling and all for public financing until he realised he would have more to spend if he rejected private finance.

McCain may be shady here, but Obama is no better.

Find a more solid platform for your Democrat propaganda akuma.

 



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akuma, you can say that all you want.. hes allowing them to help to try and level the playing field... so it becomes fair. because one candidate thought he could just buy the election.



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Fuck. I was worried going in to this that my like and respect for McCain wouldn't survive this campaign.

So now my biggest reason for liking the guy, his ardent support addressing the corrupt and broken campaign process, is shattered by hypocrisy and cheap tricks.

Alright... This is hard, I still respect a lot of what the guy has done and probably would do. But overall, I think I'm finally shifting in to a I don't like McCain position... Fuck you broken American government system... You've claimed another one.



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MrBubbles said:

akuma, you can say that all you want.. hes allowing them to help to try and level the playing field... so it becomes fair. because one candidate thought he could just buy the election.

Why is it fair?  He purposefully limited himself to public financing to separate himself politically from Obama, yet he has gone behind the American public's back and essentially taken their money unethically.  In reality he has stolen from the American public, both you and me.

When you claim to be a reformer, drafted one of the largest campaign finance reform bills in history, and run on reforming Washington fundraising, this is nothing short of flagrant hypocrisy.

Yes, Obama did say he was interested in public financing as well, but that was never an issue he based his campaign around.  It is normal in politics for politicians to change their mind (regular people change their minds all the times, why shouldn't politicians be able to change their positions on an issue).  People don't care if you haven't defined yourself on that issue, like Obama becoming more comfortable with nuclear energy and offshore drilling. 

It is a completely different thing to base your campaign on an issue, but then turn your back on that issue by your actions while still claiming you support that issue.

It would be like McCain appointing a justice who said he would uphold Roe v. Wade when he ran on a campaign saying he would overturn Roe v. Wade.  It would upset a lot of people who found that issue important, especially because McCain claimed during his campaign that it was an important issue to him.

 



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

McCain's still a good guy, this is just a backdoor political trick on his part.



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

this thread needed to be revived because.....?



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fkusumot said:
MrBubbles said:
...i dont get it...are you upset he has the funds to challenge obama now ?

You didn't follow the last two presidential elections and what McCain said about the "Iron Triangle"? Have you ever heard of the McCain-Feingold Law? Are you upset that he's found loopholes in the law that he sponsored and fought hard to get enacted? Are you accusing McCain of being a hypocrite?

This post made me giggle.

 




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