CNN poll of Polls today has Obama up 47-44.
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CNN poll of Polls today has Obama up 47-44.
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I would guess Barack is hoping that the economy keeps getting worse. It seems to be his "winning" message.
There are still what 48 days left, and the debates. Obama's ties with Freddie and Fannie are just now coming to light, and most of these polls were taken from Sunday-Tuesday, when the crash happened and all. Also for Obama to win he will need a 2-3 point lead. He is doing well with younger voters, but they do not turn out as well as the old fogies mccain has locked in. Another thing these polls were taken around the time or before it was made public the hack job that CBS did on Palin's interview. So we shall see. I expect the momentum to shift back to McCain then back to Obama several times before election day. It looks like whoever has the mo going at that time may win.
Remember Obama is a poor debater. He got crushed by Hilary, so you cannot count on one side or the other now. Also Palin is pretty quick on her feet, and she is affable, so even if Biden debates better, if she is "likable" she will hold her own. Most people in America like Palin, I think it was 40% Favorible, 30% unfav (which is higher than Obama and Binem),
Right now people are in Panic mode about the economy so do not count your chickens before they hatch.
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| tokilamockingbrd said: I would guess Barack is hoping that the economy keeps getting worse. It seems to be his "winning" message. There are still what 48 days left, and the debates. Obama's ties with Freddie and Fannie are just now coming to light, and most of these polls were taken from Sunday-Tuesday, when the crash happened and all. Also for Obama to win he will need a 2-3 point lead. He is doing well with younger voters, but they do not turn out as well as the old fogies mccain has locked in. Another thing these polls were taken around the time or before it was made public the hack job that CBS did on Palin's interview. So we shall see. I expect the momentum to shift back to McCain then back to Obama several times before election day. It looks like whoever has the mo going at that time may win. Remember Obama is a poor debater. He got crushed by Hilary, so you cannot count on one side or the other now. Also Palin is pretty quick on her feet, and she is affable, so even if Biden debates better, if she is "likable" she will hold her own. Most people in America like Palin, I think it was 40% Favorible, 30% unfav (which is higher than Obama and Binem), Right now people are in Panic mode about the economy so do not count your chickens before they hatch. |
I disagree. I think Obama did excellent against Hilary. Sure he didn't go after her at all.... but he didn't need to. Hilarys problem is that she's caught between the "Rock & a Hardplace" a lot of successful women are stuck between.
Trying to act tough... without too many people calling her a bitch because people aren't used to women "acting masculine".
Thus, when she attacked Obama... his "play it cool" don't hit back response made her attacking seem worse and played up her disfavorability.
Of course he'll actually have to go after McCain since McCain won't have the same problem.

Yes, its about the electoral votes, and there is still a long way, but the fact the bump is gone is nice. Also, The recent state polls are very encouraging. Palin has been loosing popularity points and you are wrong that that is higher than Obama and Biden. The fact is, in the debates people are trying to see who knows the most about the issues. McCain vs Obama is much different than Hillary vs Obama.
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| tokilamockingbrd said: I would guess Barack is hoping that the economy keeps getting worse. It seems to be his "winning" message. There are still what 48 days left, and the debates. Obama's ties with Freddie and Fannie are just now coming to light, and most of these polls were taken from Sunday-Tuesday, when the crash happened and all. Also for Obama to win he will need a 2-3 point lead. He is doing well with younger voters, but they do not turn out as well as the old fogies mccain has locked in. Another thing these polls were taken around the time or before it was made public the hack job that CBS did on Palin's interview. So we shall see. I expect the momentum to shift back to McCain then back to Obama several times before election day. It looks like whoever has the mo going at that time may win. Remember Obama is a poor debater. He got crushed by Hilary, so you cannot count on one side or the other now. Also Palin is pretty quick on her feet, and she is affable, so even if Biden debates better, if she is "likable" she will hold her own. Most people in America like Palin, I think it was 40% Favorible, 30% unfav (which is higher than Obama and Binem), Right now people are in Panic mode about the economy so do not count your chickens before they hatch. |
You are just plain stupid if you think Obama had any influence whatsoever in the government bailing out Freddie Mae and Fannie Mac.
You are also assuming that the polls accurately reflect the electorate, which is not necessarily true because they can only legally call land lines. Many young and even 30 year-old people have ditched their land line. My mom is 48 and she got rid of hers. This is a flaw that pretty much no poll can overcome as they tend to skew towards older people in this day and age.
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| Aiemond said: Yes, its about the electoral votes, and there is still a long way, but the fact the bump is gone is nice. Also, The recent state polls are very encouraging. Palin has been loosing popularity points and you are wrong that that is higher than Obama and Biden. The fact is, in the debates people are trying to see who knows the most about the issues. McCain vs Obama is much different than Hillary vs Obama. |
I think her losing popularity has more to do with weariness than her. People are tired of hearing about her all the time. She looked VERY good last night on her Hannity interview, and came across very knowledgeable and likable. These things are cylical. In 2 weeks if her popularity is still steadily slipping then I will agree with you that people are liking her less. Also, when it become public knowledge that the Obama campaign has been manipulating the cituation in Alaska for political gain (I have heard confirmed reports that the Obama campaign was in contact with both of the Democrats doing the state trooper inquiry) it will hurt them more than her.
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akuma587 said:
You are just plain stupid if you think Obama had any influence whatsoever in the government bailing out Freddie Mae and Fannie Mac. You are also assuming that the polls accurately reflect the electorate, which is not necessarily true because they can only legally call land lines. Many young and even 30 year-old people have ditched their land line. My mom is 48 and she got rid of hers. This is a flaw that pretty much no poll can overcome as they tend to skew towards older people in this day and age.
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Obama had no connection to bailing out Fannie and Freddie. I am saying is part of the reason they needed to be bailed out. Him and all of the other People in Congress who were lobbied to leave them alone. It was not an Obama thing, it is a washington thing. McCain tried to point this out in 05, but Congress including Obama made no move. Chris Dodd the person in charge of the oversight of F & F amd was given the most campaign contributions, isn't that ironic? Guess who was no. 2... Barack Obama.
Now John McCain DID recieve some money for his campaign from F & F, but it was all individials, and from not the company itself. And it ammounted to about 1/8 of what Barack recieved (in only a faction of the time, the data is totals from 1989 to present). These are all facts. You cannot argue them. What you can argue is the motive behind the cash Obama recieved, but not the fact he was the #2 recipient. Also, JM is on the Congression record slamming F & F in 05, you cannot argue with any reason that McCain did not make an attempt to stop the corruption that led to the collapse of the housing market. If I was BO I would try to not mention F & F or the loan crisis because it will blow up in his face... he should lead the disscussion other place... Like saying for 50,000th time that McCain is Bush's bitch. That may work, but it is too soon to tell.
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tokilamockingbrd said:
Obama had no connection to bailing out Fannie and Freddie. I am saying is part of the reason they needed to be bailed out. Him and all of the other People in Congress who were lobbied to leave them alone. It was not an Obama thing, it is a washington thing. McCain tried to point this out in 05, but Congress including Obama made no move. Chris Dodd the person in charge of the oversight of F & F amd was given the most campaign contributions, isn't that ironic? Guess who was no. 2... Barack Obama. Now John McCain DID recieve some money for his campaign from F & F, but it was all individials, and from not the company itself. And it ammounted to about 1/8 of what Barack recieved (in only a faction of the time, the data is totals from 1989 to present). These are all facts. You cannot argue them. What you can argue is the motive behind the cash Obama recieved, but not the fact he was the #2 recipient. Also, JM is on the Congression record slamming F & F in 05, you cannot argue with any reason that McCain did not make an attempt to stop the corruption that led to the collapse of the housing market. If I was BO I would try to not mention F & F or the loan crisis because it will blow up in his face... he should lead the disscussion other place... Like saying for 50,000th time that McCain is Bush's bitch. That may work, but it is too soon to tell.
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Except for the fact that he has tried to introduce legislation that would help regulate wall street and has the proof to back it up. McCain has called himself a deregulator and has voted in the past to keep regulation from happening. Plus, you could also talk about all the "ex" lobbiests that are on McCain's campaign. They may not be actively lobbying now, but they have and prolly will again after the election. Lastly, McCain's chief financial advisor on his campaign is part of the reason why we are in the mess we are today.
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The collapse of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac would have been catastrophic, at the same level as AIG.
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In the context of the original post, I do think that it is interesting that Obama is leading in national polls while sites like pollster.com and electoral-vote.com show John McCain winning the electoral college. Now I could be wrong, but I suspect this is because Barack Obama is winning in states with low per-capita electoral college votes by a very wide margin, while McCain is winning states with high per-capita electoral college votes by a much smaller margin.