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Fishie on 21 September 2008
Jordahn said:
EdGuila said:
misteromar mk4 said:
He is right, Sony spoke so much shit about the ps2, they said it would have Toy Story 2 graphics etc. If was not for the ridiculous sony hype, the DC might have had more of a chance.
If you compare what games the DC had and what the ps2 had in its first 2 years, I would take the DC anyday.

 

 I had a Genesis, a Sega CD and a Saturn, so naturally I went with a Dreamcast and it was a mistake.  My PS2 was way way way better.

 

 Hey, everyone likes what they like, but the Toy Story comment was inaccurate.

 

 No it wasnt, here is two more(and they quoted the line to me as well):

 

http://money.cnn.com/1999/03/01/life/playstation/

 

http://terror.snm-hgkz.ch/mirrors/thegia/sites/www.thegia.com/news/n990228b.html



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Fishie on 21 September 2008
KBG29 said:
I love all of the examples that have been dished out so far on how horrible Sony is. The funny thing is, many of the people on these boards make claim that they care about games. Yet no one has made one claim about Sony overselling that aspect of any of their systems. Every true fact that people have stated was Sony doing more than gaming with the system.

As far as pure games go, Sony has never show sothing that their console is incapable of. People like to think that Sony made claims back when the PS2 came out, but they are all based off great stories of fiction that the internet has made up. If you want the truth of what Sony thought the PS2 was capable of, then look for the original tech demos for PS2. Just like at E305 were Sony showed the alfred molina video, and the Getaway demo, and the Killzone 2 trailer. They also did the same thing for PS2 @ I believe E399. Every thing that Sony claimed the PS2 could do in those erly demos has been passed, and looks like crap vs any first party Sony stuff from late PS2.

Now with the PS3 it is the same thing all over again. Sony showed those tech demos, and everyone expected it day one. It is not Sony's fault that people don't understand potential, and thinking ahead. Hell Peter Moore should remember that his own division also made a target Madden trailer. Has it been reached yet? No. Will it be reached this gen? Of course, and it will be a joke compared to Madden 2011, and beyond. The same goes for the demos SOny showed back at E305. By the time we start seeing software as mature as Killzone 1, God of War, Shadow of the Colosis, Jak 3, Gran Turismo 4, and any other 04 - 06 from the PS2 on the PS3, the games will have passed those tech demos.

Now I am not saying that people will admit to it. I mean even after games like God of War 3, Gran Turismo 5, FFvsXIII, and many many other games put Sony's original targets to shame there will stil be a group out there that claims Sony fed everyone BS and PS3 never lived up to what they claimed. I just hope at some point people learn about potential, looking to the future, and seeing beyond the very second they are currently living in. To sum it all up, Short sightedness is evil, and i'll leave it at that.

Bullshit.

 

The E3 2k5 trailers were obviously CG yet Sony kept insisting for the longest time that they were all realtime running on a PS3 devkit, even worse they literally said what you see is 100% gameplay.

Thats what pissed people of the most, not the fact that they showed of CG which might or might not be surpassed(forget PS3 ever coming close to the madness we witnessed in the Motorstorm and Killzone 2 CG fests at 1080p/60fps), its the fact that they insisted for as long as they could get away with it that it was all realtime running on actual PS3 hardware.

 



LOL MATURE on 21 September 2008

Fishie - give it up. no one cares.



averyblund on 21 September 2008

Kinda funny how both sides of the "Toy Story" debate, seem to have quieted down after proof that both MS and Sony lied through their teeth. Pot ----> keddle

I used to hate Nintendo for the same thing, the N64 hype was deafening (and mostly hot air) ! But after getting smacked down for 2 gens they have learned to be more straightforward. The Wii though hardly perfect has delivered everything Nintendo said it would. Meanwhile the HD hype is starting to look eerily similar to last gen with the "amazing" PS3 being at best only a marginal improvement over the 360, which itself is so unrealiable that in 15 years the only way to play games will be via emulator. Sometimes hype distracts. That said I do think the PS2 is the greatest system ever, though the Dreamcast would coukd put it to shame had it survived the cycle and kept its amazing rate of quality games.



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